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From: Andy Cap on 21 Jul 2010 15:07 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:53:59 +0100, Douglas Payne <douggie(a)cheerful.com> wrote: >> A nine year old French car, by definition, has to be a banger. > >Agreed. > I just don't get that at all. Are you suggesting that usage and maintenance aren't factors in the condition of any mechanical item. Sure, most are probably bangers, but to make that sweeping assertion simply isn't true. Andy C
From: Cicero on 21 Jul 2010 15:16 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:07:11 +0100, Andy Cap wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:53:59 +0100, Douglas Payne <douggie(a)cheerful.com> > wrote: > >>> A nine year old French car, by definition, has to be a banger. >> >>Agreed. >> >> > I just don't get that at all. Are you suggesting that usage and > maintenance aren't factors in the condition of any mechanical item. > Sure, most are probably bangers, but to make that sweeping assertion > simply isn't true. > > Andy C ============================================================================== I don't exactly where this will reply will appear but thanks to anybody who manages to see it. Many thanks to everybody to contributed to this little debate. It seems that engine flushing is now (almost) obsolete except in special circumstances so I won't be doing a flush. Whilst doing a bit of 'googling' on the subject I came across this bit of advice (in answer to a question on engine flushing) which shows how good advice can become distorted to the point of being dangerous: "You could fill up with diesel instead of engine oil for about 500 miles then drain and refill with good quality engine oil" The source of this bit of advice is here in context and it seems to offered quite seriously (3rd post): http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=48503 This appears to be derived from this much better informed source: http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html Scroll to 'Flushing oils' and read the next three paragraphs. Helpful? Cic. -- =============================================================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door ===============================================================================
From: Andy Cap on 21 Jul 2010 15:31 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:16:04 GMT, Cicero <sheldrake(a)hellfire.co.uk> wrote: >I don't exactly where this will reply will appear but thanks to anybody >who manages to see it. > >Many thanks to everybody to contributed to this little debate. It seems >that engine flushing is now (almost) obsolete except in special >circumstances so I won't be doing a flush. > >Whilst doing a bit of 'googling' on the subject I came across this bit of >advice (in answer to a question on engine flushing) which shows how good >advice can become distorted to the point of being dangerous: > >"You could fill up with diesel instead of engine oil for about 500 miles >then drain and refill with good quality engine oil" > >The source of this bit of advice is here in context and it seems to >offered quite seriously (3rd post): > >http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=48503 > >This appears to be derived from this much better informed source: > >http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html > >Scroll to 'Flushing oils' and read the next three paragraphs. > >Helpful? One additonal reason for not using the additive type cleaner - apart from the fact that it probably doesn't work - is that the recycling people don't want additives added to the recovered oil. Andy C > >Cic.
From: Adrian on 21 Jul 2010 15:34 Douglas Payne <douggie(a)cheerful.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > Agreed, change the oil every year or ~10k. Wouldn't worry too much > about the super-dooperness of the oil, only the grade as the Diesels > from this period aren't all that sophisticated. It'll be an HDi common-rail.
From: Douglas Payne on 21 Jul 2010 16:51
Adrian wrote: > Douglas Payne <douggie(a)cheerful.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like > they were saying: > >> Agreed, change the oil every year or ~10k. Wouldn't worry too much >> about the super-dooperness of the oil, only the grade as the Diesels >> from this period aren't all that sophisticated. > > It'll be an HDi common-rail. Ah, so it will be sophisticated enough, but still not exactly highly stressed in a 306. -- Douglas |