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From: JNugent on 14 Jul 2010 19:09 Squashme wrote: > On 14 July, 11:43, JNugent <jennings...(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: >> Squashme wrote: >>> JNugent <jennings...(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: >>>> Squashme wrote: >>>>> JNugent <jennings...(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: >>>>>> alan.holmes wrote: >>>>>>> I find that often I am following a car, which suddenly rams on it's brakes >>>>>>> and indicates to turn left immediately when they get to the turning! >>>>>>> I was always taught to indicate early at least 50 - 100 yards before the >>>>>>> turnoff, but few, if any drivers these days do that, they all seem to wait >>>>>>> until they are just about to turn then indicate and turn. >>>>>> I agree on the "correct" way to do it, and in an ideal world one would always >>>>>> do it. But there can be situations where the left-turning driver judges that >>>>>> not indiucating left in advance can be a wise(r) way to proceed than the >>>>>> standard method. >>>>>> A good example would be approaching your left turn and noting that there is a >>>>>> large HGV or a bus waiting to turn right into it from the opposite direction. >>>>>> Give the driver enough notice and he'll be tempted to turn in front of you >>>>>> and then you'll be stuck behind him. And that is Not Good (depending on the >>>>>> type of road the turning is, of course). >>>>> And that would never do. >>>> Absolutely. If it is easily avoided (and it is), it's better avoided. >>> What pleasure you must take from these minor victories. >> If the topic is of so little moment, one marvels that you ever thought it >> necessary to take a contrary line. > Oh, reason not the need! > How about you drive along, overtake a cyclist, then turn left, not > having signalled, as you do not want to alert the oncoming right- > turning dustcart? This exciting surprise could be of some concern to > the cyclist. > I suppose that you could claim that you protected him from the > potential action of the dustcart. Have you ever thought of trying to write fiction for a living?
From: brass monkey on 14 Jul 2010 19:30 "Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:mn.757d7da77e0d82da.106911(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk... > "brass monkey" <a(a)b.com> wrote in message >>> "alan.holmes" <alan.holmes27(a)somewhere.net> wrote in message >>> news:iJL_n.207405$Yb4.142523(a)hurricane... >>>> I find that often I am following a car, which suddenly rams on it's >>>> brakes and indicates to turn left immediately when they get to the >>>> turning! >>>> I was always taught to indicate early at least 50 - 100 yards before >>>> the turnoff, but few, if any drivers these days do that, they all seem >>>> to wait until they are just about to turn then indicate and turn. >>> You find that they actually indicate? >>> And with traffic lights near me, my road and the opposite road are >>> single lane, so both sides either turn right, left or go straight on. >>> When we change to amber I indicate to turn right and wait for the dope >>> opposite to let me know where he's going. > > Which is a very selfish attitude to take. You should already be indicating > on the approach and why call the driver approaching from the other > direction a dope for not indicating? I indicate on the approach to lights but if I get stopped on red I'm not sitting there flashing for minutes. When the opposing lights change to amber I start indicating again. 'Dope' because virtually nobody indicates that they'll be turning right at this particular junction. I.e, I'm waiting to turn right but almost everyone indicates that they are coming straight across, which they don't. Trust no-one.
From: brass monkey on 14 Jul 2010 20:02 "brass monkey" <a(a)b.com> wrote in message news:4c3e48b4$0$28806$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > > "Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:mn.757d7da77e0d82da.106911(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk... >> "brass monkey" <a(a)b.com> wrote in message >>>> "alan.holmes" <alan.holmes27(a)somewhere.net> wrote in message >>>> news:iJL_n.207405$Yb4.142523(a)hurricane... >>>>> I find that often I am following a car, which suddenly rams on it's >>>>> brakes and indicates to turn left immediately when they get to the >>>>> turning! >>>>> I was always taught to indicate early at least 50 - 100 yards before >>>>> the turnoff, but few, if any drivers these days do that, they all seem >>>>> to wait until they are just about to turn then indicate and turn. >>>> You find that they actually indicate? >>>> And with traffic lights near me, my road and the opposite road are >>>> single lane, so both sides either turn right, left or go straight on. >>>> When we change to amber I indicate to turn right and wait for the dope >>>> opposite to let me know where he's going. >> >> Which is a very selfish attitude to take. You should already be >> indicating on the approach and why call the driver approaching from the >> other direction a dope for not indicating? > > I indicate on the approach to lights but if I get stopped on red I'm not > sitting there flashing for minutes. When the opposing lights change to > amber I start indicating again. 'Dope' because virtually nobody indicates > that they'll be turning right at this particular junction. I.e, I'm > waiting to turn right but almost everyone indicates that they are coming > straight across, which they don't. > Trust no-one. Here is the crossing in question if you put DY8 5RT into aboutmyplace.co.uk on birdseye and full zoom. I'm usually coming from the right to turn right, the North/South road is fairly rammed most of the day. There's another prob here, if I'm going North and want to turn right, only left and straight-on are marked with arrows. If I stay in the straight-on lane I'm obstructing the guaranteed queue behind me (you can see the steam rising), if I move over to the right of centre I then get somebody coming straight-on Southwards in the wrong (turn right) lane, can't win. According to the road markings, the road on the right is inaccessible except from the west :D
From: The Peeler on 14 Jul 2010 23:15 On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:54:04 +0100, "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >"alan.holmes" <alan.holmes27(a)somewhere.net> wrote in message >news:YZn%n.133041$sD7.11983(a)hurricane... >> >> I find that often I am following a car, which suddenly rams on it's brakes >> and indicates to turn left immediately when they get to the turning! >> >> I was always taught to indicate early at least 50 - 100 yards before the >> turnoff, but few, if any drivers these days do that, they all seem to wait >> until they are just about to turn then indicate and turn. > >I was taught to leave a safe distance in front so that if the driver in >front brakes sharply, it does not matter :-) Nowadays, if you leave a safe distance, someone will inevitably overtake you and fill it.
From: mileburner on 15 Jul 2010 02:39
"Squashme" <squashme(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:0959123d-3b7a-4d48-8dab-9357700df02e(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com... > On 14 July, 11:23, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >> Squashme wrote: >> >> > What pleasure you must take from these minor victories. >> >> He also seems to get a similar smug satisfaction from minor usenet >> victories. > > Does he get any? In his own mind he does, yes. |