From: hancock4 on
On Oct 22, 6:55 pm, N8N <njna...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Everyone has their limits. Ask General Motors where their customers went.
>
> How bad does Microsoft have to suck before people stop buying?

It's all relative. People did not _solely_ stop buying GM because of
GM's products. They stopped because there was a superior alternative.
From: hancock4 on
On Oct 22, 6:55 pm, N8N <njna...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> How bad does Microsoft have to suck before people stop buying?

Bringing this back to roads...remember Howard Johnson's restaurants?
At one time they were a highly respected traveler's oasis. MAD
magazine did a parody of their marketplace power.

Yet, IMHO, a decline in service and food quality (especially on the
turnpikes) and the rise of fast food did them in.

In NYC and Phila there was a popular food chain, Horn & Hardart
Automat. They once were everywhere and extremely popular. Like HJ's,
they too fell on hard times and are gone.

I have no idea of who, what, or when will come along to replace M/S.
It will probably be something completely different to reflect new
technology and marketing, perhaps things not quite invented yet. Fast
food was different than sit down dining, and client/server is
different than mainframes.
From: hancock4 on
On Oct 22, 6:21 pm, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> Everyone has their limits. Ask General Motors where their customers went.

The problem with General Motors (and Ford and Chrysler) is that they
failed to ask and understand that question. They kept doing what they
were used to doing. From that perspective it's amazing they lasted as
long as they did.

(Hint: pay attention to the orange dots and black dots of quality in
Consumer Reports, and if your product is below par, improve it.)

IBM had a brush with failure not too long ago; it too got fat and
happy and stuck on mainframes. But fortunately new leadership (I
think it was the guy from American Express who took over) restructured
the company. A lot of people lost their jobs and the company is very
different than it used to be. (IBM used to have very generous salary
and benefits, and I think that's gone). But the company is still
around doing quite well.


From: RonB on
hancock4(a)bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> On Oct 22, 6:55 pm, N8N <njna...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Everyone has their limits. Ask General Motors where their customers went.
>> How bad does Microsoft have to suck before people stop buying?
>
> It's all relative. People did not _solely_ stop buying GM because of
> GM's products. They stopped because there was a superior alternative.

Actually they *didn't* stop buying GM products -- it was still the
number one selling brand in the United States. The main reason people
stopped buying cars (all brands) is because they can't get credit (the
big banks are too busy using their bailout money to prop up the price of
oil) and they had lost their jobs.

--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
From: RonB on
hancock4(a)bbs.cpcn.com wrote:

> I have no idea of who, what, or when will come along to replace M/S.
> It will probably be something completely different to reflect new
> technology and marketing, perhaps things not quite invented yet.

I think it has already been invented -- Vista and Vista 7 are/will be
doing/do more damage to Microsoft than anything anyone else.

--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"