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From: Nick Finnigan on 25 Jun 2010 12:23 Chris Whelan wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:21:01 +0100, Nick Finnigan wrote: > >> Chris Whelan wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:58:21 +0100, Nick Finnigan wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>> Ah, and 'H' bars (which are not 'T' bars). No legal standing: >>>> >>>> http://www.warrington.gov.uk/transportandstreets/Roadsafety/ >>> Access_protection_markings.aspx >>> >>> (From your link): >>> >>> "Last updated 14/10/2008 15:15:34" >>> >>> (From RobertL's post): >>> >>> "The rules changed a few months ago." >> They didn't. > > (Altogether now) > > "Oh yes they did!" > > For the pedant, the relevant regulations came into force on 31 March > 2008, so strictly speaking more than "a few months". The rules have So, before 14/10/2008 15:15:34 > significantly changed however. > > To avoid the difficulty of wading through the information available by > Googling "parking special enforcement area", here are brief extracts: > > "Part 6 of the Traffic Management Act 2004 gives the Secretary of State > the power to designate civil enforcement areas." > > "When an area is designated as a civil enforcement area, the effect is > that certain specified parking offences are enforced by the local > authority." > > "...the effect of making a special enforcement area is that two > additional parking prohibitions apply (double parking and parking at > dropped footways etc.)" Nothing to do with white lines, T bars or H bars.
From: Peter Hill on 25 Jun 2010 13:35 On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:21:01 +0100, Nick Finnigan <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote: >Chris Whelan wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:58:21 +0100, Nick Finnigan wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> Ah, and 'H' bars (which are not 'T' bars). No legal standing: >>> >>> http://www.warrington.gov.uk/transportandstreets/Roadsafety/ >> Access_protection_markings.aspx >> >> (From your link): >> >> "Last updated 14/10/2008 15:15:34" >> >> (From RobertL's post): >> >> "The rules changed a few months ago." > > They didn't. Cambridge being a Special Enforcement Area are trying it on. But they are ensuring no one can "buy" a parking space by getting a H bar. It's for access, not parking. If you park on it then you have abused it and it can be removed - no refund of original fee and possible difficulty in future action against other people that park there. -- Peter Hill Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header Can of worms - what every fisherman wants. Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!
From: Chris Whelan on 25 Jun 2010 13:47 On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:23:09 +0100, Nick Finnigan wrote: [...] >> "...the effect of making a special enforcement area is that two >> additional parking prohibitions apply (double parking and parking at >> dropped footways etc.)" > > Nothing to do with white lines, T bars or H bars. <Sigh> Yes, it has everything to do with those. Only I'm tired of doing your Googling for today. The "etc" in the quoted text is your clue... Chris -- Remove prejudice to reply.
From: Nick Finnigan on 27 Jun 2010 17:44 Chris Whelan wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:23:09 +0100, Nick Finnigan wrote: > > [...] > >>> "...the effect of making a special enforcement area is that two >>> additional parking prohibitions apply (double parking and parking at >>> dropped footways etc.)" >> Nothing to do with white lines, T bars or H bars. > > <Sigh> > > Yes, it has everything to do with those. Only I'm tired of doing your > Googling for today. > > The "etc" in the quoted text is your clue... The etc. means where the carriageway has been raised. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2004/ukpga_20040018_en_9#pt6-pb3-l1g86
From: Nick Finnigan on 27 Jun 2010 17:46
Peter Hill wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:21:01 +0100, Nick Finnigan <nix(a)genie.co.uk> > wrote: > >> Chris Whelan wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:58:21 +0100, Nick Finnigan wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>> Ah, and 'H' bars (which are not 'T' bars). No legal standing: > > Cambridge being a Special Enforcement Area are trying it on. > > But they are ensuring no one can "buy" a parking space by getting a H > bar. It's for access, not parking. If you park on it then you have > abused it and it can be removed - no refund of original fee and > possible difficulty in future action against other people that park > there. Parking is allowed (only) with permission of the occupier: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2004/ukpga_20040018_en_9#pt6-pb3-l1g86 |