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From: john hamilton on 19 Jun 2010 01:22
Where a road narrows to a single lane just before ending in a cul-de-sac
(dead end) there is a single *white* line painted on the road on the side of
the road where the houses are.

The line is there presumably because if people park there, its very
difficult for cars to turn in and out of their driveways because the road is
so narrow.

Does one risk a penalty if one parks immediately outside a friends driveway
in the road, but on the white line. (it's with the house owners permission).
There is still just enough room for a car to pass by at that point.


From: Alan on 19 Jun 2010 01:28

"john hamilton" <bluestar95(a)mail.invalid> wrote in message
news:hvhk80$714$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Where a road narrows to a single lane just before ending in a cul-de-sac
> (dead end) there is a single *white* line painted on the road on the side
> of the road where the houses are.
>
> The line is there presumably because if people park there, its very
> difficult for cars to turn in and out of their driveways because the road
> is so narrow.
>
> Does one risk a penalty if one parks immediately outside a friends
> driveway in the road, but on the white line. (it's with the house owners
> permission). There is still just enough room for a car to pass by at that
> point.
>

Yes, its not the house owners place to give or refuse permission because
they do not have the authority to do so. The road belongs to the council
unless you know otherwise and they place the road markings on it.

Alan


From: Nick Finnigan on 19 Jun 2010 05:11
john hamilton wrote:
>
> Does one risk a penalty if one parks immediately outside a friends driveway
> in the road, but on the white line. (it's with the house owners permission).
> There is still just enough room for a car to pass by at that point.

Not for a parking restriction, possibly for obstruction.

Will you be at your friend's house, or miles away?
Is there a footway? Any way at all to squeeze on the drive?

(I'm amazed at how many people will park on the carriageway blocking a
friend's empty drive and then turn around in the road when they leave.)
From: Doug on 19 Jun 2010 05:23
On 19 June, 06:22, "john hamilton" <bluesta...(a)mail.invalid> wrote:
> Where a road narrows to a single lane just before ending in a cul-de-sac
> (dead end) there is a single *white* line painted on the road on the side of
> the road where the houses are.
>
> The line is there presumably because if people park there, its very
> difficult for cars to turn in and out of their driveways because the road is
> so narrow.
>
> Does one risk a penalty if one parks immediately outside a friends driveway
> in the road, but on the white line. (it's with the house owners permission).
> There is still just enough room for a car to pass by at that point.
>
No its OK if the solid white line demarcates a cycle lane. You can
park on the lane indefinitely at your leisure in the knowledge that
you won't get done by the police for it and especially if it is
outside a line of shops which thrive on trade from motorists.

BTW, the way to avoid double reds is to park on the pavement inside
them until the police politely move you on.

Doug.
From: Peter Hill on 19 Jun 2010 05:49
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 06:22:48 +0100, "john hamilton"
<bluestar95(a)mail.invalid> wrote:

>Where a road narrows to a single lane just before ending in a cul-de-sac
>(dead end) there is a single *white* line painted on the road on the side of
>the road where the houses are.
>
>The line is there presumably because if people park there, its very
>difficult for cars to turn in and out of their driveways because the road is
>so narrow.
>
>Does one risk a penalty if one parks immediately outside a friends driveway
>in the road, but on the white line. (it's with the house owners permission).
>There is still just enough room for a car to pass by at that point.

Parking on a road that's too narrow to allow other vehicles past is
obstucting the highway irrespective of there being / not being
kerbside white lines.

Kerbside white lines are purely a "dissuader" and have no legal
status. Where there is a dropped kerb or entrance to private road,
parking there would be an obstruction of access to the property that
would only be dealt with by the police if there was a complaint. As
you have permission from the person you are obstructing,can be
contacted and would no doubt move the vehicle on request it's not an
issue.
http://www.pkc.gov.uk/Transport+and+streets/Roads+and+pavements/Roads+and+pavements+-+access+to+property/
Says you have to pay but I'm sure the councils are giving lots away
free if they consider parking to be a general problem in an area. The
one time fee of �150 means the council have to keep repainting it in
perpetuity so it's a bargain.

Clearly if you park on one (or any access without), don't inform the
person who's access you have obstructed, fail to tell them how to
contact you should the access be needed and fail to move the vehicle
promptly on request the police can deal with it as they see fit -
towed, rolled, rammed.

At a hazard such as traffic calming, bends, on DCs, soft verge they
are edge lines as shown in highway code.

White lines spaced 30cm or so from kerb are usually cycle lanes,
unless filled with diagonal white lines.
--
Peter Hill
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