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From: Otto Yamamoto on 5 Apr 2010 21:39 On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:49:00 -0400, Craig Zeni wrote: > Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 Here here. Thought we had a dust-up w/the Pommys over that issue some 230+ years ago. Pity some seem to have forgotten about that. -- Otto Yamamoto
From: gpsman on 5 Apr 2010 23:38 On Apr 5, 9:39 pm, Otto Yamamoto <o...(a)yamamoto.cc> wrote: > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:49:00 -0400, Craig Zeni wrote: > > Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary > > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > > Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 > > Here here. Thought we had a dust-up w/the Pommys over that issue some > 230+ years ago. Pity some seem to have forgotten about that. Do you remember anyone who sacrificed all their liberty for yours, and your temporary safety? Your liberty to be an ignorant fuckwit and broadcast same to the world was purchased with blood. I guess they owed you. ----- - gpsman
From: Honorable Mention on 6 Apr 2010 01:30 On Apr 5, 2:05 pm, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On 2010-04-05, Craig Zeni <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > > > gpsman wrote: > >> On Apr 5, 2:56 am, Honorable Mention <skycityret...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> On Apr 4, 9:30 pm, lil abner <@daisey.mae> wrote: > > >>>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263494/Police-secretly-photo.... > >>> Thank you for keeping us informed. I was in TN the other day and > >>> noted that it is far more stressful to drive in that state than it > >>> used to be. Nearly every city and town has red light cameras, > >>> severely underposted speed limits and speed cameras intermittently. I > >>> actually turned around and decided it wasn't worth it to go to one > >>> town after I saw a sign saying they had speed cameras. > > >> Perhaps a remedial driving course would not be an unreasonable > >> suggestion. > > >>> Add to that > >>> the unmarked police cars. > > >> No problem for me. Cops can follow me everywhere, and I wish they > >> would. > >>> Are the people in TN mad about this abuse > >>> of power? > > >> Humans have a natural criminal tendency. > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retail_loss_prevention#Sources_of_loss.2.... > > >> The minority of honest people probably welcome protection from the > >> majority of selfish scumbags and idiots. I know I do. > > Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary > > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > > Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 > > Ideas on how long it takes before gpstroll is pulled over and ticketed > with a cop following him looking for a violation? Even with gpstroll > knowing the cop is there I don't think it will be long at all. Douchebags like him find out one day when they're in some state or town where they failed to see the sudden speed limit change, cop stops them and gives them a fine and abuse they'll never forget. He'll learn how honest and well meaning the pigs are one day...that is unless he is one himself, which he probably is. Most pigs I've noticed are completely above the law, so of course they aren't "worried".
From: N8N on 6 Apr 2010 09:25 On Apr 5, 11:38 pm, gpsman <gps...(a)driversmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 5, 9:39 pm, Otto Yamamoto <o...(a)yamamoto.cc> wrote: > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:49:00 -0400, Craig Zeni wrote: > > > Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary > > > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > > > Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 > > > Here here. Thought we had a dust-up w/the Pommys over that issue some > > 230+ years ago. Pity some seem to have forgotten about that. (breaking resolution to not reply to the troll temporarily) > > Do you remember anyone who sacrificed all their liberty for yours, and > your temporary safety? Let's see, my grandfather, my future father-in-law, and the guy in whose driveway my '55 are sitting all served in the armed forces (Marines, Army, and Navy respectively) during shooting wars, you insufferable douche. > <strike>Your</strike> My liberty to be an ignorant fuckwit and broadcast same to the world > was purchased with blood. fixed that for you. nate
From: N8N on 6 Apr 2010 11:26
On Apr 6, 11:17 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > On Apr 5, 11:38 pm, gpsman <gps...(a)driversmail.com> wrote: > >> Do you remember anyone who sacrificed all their liberty for yours, and > >> your temporary safety? > > The US military doesn't fight for those things. It fights for special > interests that profit from war. It fights for the rulers of the nation. > It fights for the interests of the Federal Government. That's what it > really does. This is what many people figure out after they've been in > the military for awhile. > > "WAR is a racket. It always has been. > It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most > vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one > in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." > -Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC > > Read the rest:http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm > > It was written in the run up to the US getting involved in WW2. The > words have only become more true with the wars since. War is a Racket. A > great racket so long as morons like yourself believe that people are > 'dying for our freedom'. What they are dying for is our (and their) > enslavement. > > Here, watch what your empire does in the occupied territories:http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/55094.html I agree to a point, but to apply that with a broad brush to WW2 is incorrect IMHO. WW2 was wholly justifiable for two separate reasons - first, the attack on US sovereign territory by a hostile entity (Japan) and second, the aggression of a separate hostile entity against our allies in Europe (Nazi Germany.) Add to that the rampant human rights violations (to put it mildly) on the part of both adversaries, to the point that "Nazi" has become nearly synonymous with genocide. Sometimes force *is* the answer, when nothing else works. nate |