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From: hancock4 on 6 Apr 2010 12:30 On Apr 5, 8:16 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Remember, it's government. Government is force. Calling it "civil" is > just their way around our rights. They'll still use force to make you > pay. You didn't complain when said government used force to take away people's private property--their land--to make the highway you like to drive upon.
From: N8N on 6 Apr 2010 13:36 On Apr 6, 12:33 pm, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On 2010-04-06, N8N <njna...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 6, 11:17 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > On Apr 5, 11:38 pm, gpsman <gps...(a)driversmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Do you remember anyone who sacrificed all their liberty for yours, and > >> >> your temporary safety? > > >> The US military doesn't fight for those things. It fights for special > >> interests that profit from war. It fights for the rulers of the nation.. > >> It fights for the interests of the Federal Government. That's what it > >> really does. This is what many people figure out after they've been in > >> the military for awhile. > > >> "WAR is a racket. It always has been. > >> It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most > >> vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one > >> in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." > >> -Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC > > >> Read the rest:http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm > > >> It was written in the run up to the US getting involved in WW2. The > >> words have only become more true with the wars since. War is a Racket. A > >> great racket so long as morons like yourself believe that people are > >> 'dying for our freedom'. What they are dying for is our (and their) > >> enslavement. > >> Here, watch what your empire does in the occupied territories:http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/55094.html > > I agree to a point, but to apply that with a broad brush to WW2 is > > incorrect IMHO. WW2 was wholly justifiable for two separate reasons - > > first, the attack on US sovereign territory by a hostile entity > > (Japan) and second, the aggression of a separate hostile entity > > against our allies in Europe (Nazi Germany.) Add to that the rampant > > human rights violations (to put it mildly) on the part of both > > adversaries, to the point that "Nazi" has become nearly synonymous > > with genocide. > > Sometimes force *is* the answer, when nothing else works. > > I used to think WW2 was the 'good war'. I've learned more and found it > too was just another racket. Rather than get deeply into it, the US > entry into WW2, and perhaps even WW2 in europe itself, was the direct > consequence of US actions in years between the US entry in to WW1 and > 1941. The people of the USA were manipulated into war as all people are > by those who wanted it, those who profit from it. > > Sure, the empire of Japan attacked the US. After the US federal > government did a series of things that could not have been better > designed to provoke a Japanese attack. In europe, without US entry into > WW1 and without bankers like Prescott Bush, there would not have been a > Hitler to worry about. > > The best war ever gets is a war of separation for people to be free of > some ruler(s). But that only works for the people trying to escape if > and only if they too aren't being manipulated by some special interests > looking to profit from the conflict and/or separation. If you dig deeper, you can at least in part blame the rise of Hitler on the conditions of the Treaty of Versailles, but even so, there's some things that are inexcusable. nate
From: Honorable Mention on 6 Apr 2010 13:49 On Apr 6, 1:36 pm, N8N <njna...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 6, 12:33 pm, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On 2010-04-06, N8N <njna...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 6, 11:17 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> > On Apr 5, 11:38 pm, gpsman <gps...(a)driversmail.com> wrote: > > >> >> Do you remember anyone who sacrificed all their liberty for yours, and > > >> >> your temporary safety? > > > >> The US military doesn't fight for those things. It fights for special > > >> interests that profit from war. It fights for the rulers of the nation. > > >> It fights for the interests of the Federal Government. That's what it > > >> really does. This is what many people figure out after they've been in > > >> the military for awhile. > > > >> "WAR is a racket. It always has been. > > >> It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most > > >> vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one > > >> in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.." > > >> -Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC > > > >> Read the rest:http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm > > > >> It was written in the run up to the US getting involved in WW2. The > > >> words have only become more true with the wars since. War is a Racket. A > > >> great racket so long as morons like yourself believe that people are > > >> 'dying for our freedom'. What they are dying for is our (and their) > > >> enslavement. > > >> Here, watch what your empire does in the occupied territories:http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/55094.html > > > I agree to a point, but to apply that with a broad brush to WW2 is > > > incorrect IMHO. WW2 was wholly justifiable for two separate reasons - > > > first, the attack on US sovereign territory by a hostile entity > > > (Japan) and second, the aggression of a separate hostile entity > > > against our allies in Europe (Nazi Germany.) Add to that the rampant > > > human rights violations (to put it mildly) on the part of both > > > adversaries, to the point that "Nazi" has become nearly synonymous > > > with genocide. > > > Sometimes force *is* the answer, when nothing else works. > > > I used to think WW2 was the 'good war'. I've learned more and found it > > too was just another racket. Rather than get deeply into it, the US > > entry into WW2, and perhaps even WW2 in europe itself, was the direct > > consequence of US actions in years between the US entry in to WW1 and > > 1941. The people of the USA were manipulated into war as all people are > > by those who wanted it, those who profit from it. > > > Sure, the empire of Japan attacked the US. After the US federal > > government did a series of things that could not have been better > > designed to provoke a Japanese attack. In europe, without US entry into > > WW1 and without bankers like Prescott Bush, there would not have been a > > Hitler to worry about. > > > The best war ever gets is a war of separation for people to be free of > > some ruler(s). But that only works for the people trying to escape if > > and only if they too aren't being manipulated by some special interests > > looking to profit from the conflict and/or separation. > > If you dig deeper, you can at least in part blame the rise of Hitler > on the conditions of the Treaty of Versailles, but even so, there's > some things that are inexcusable. > > nate IMHO, the real goal of WWI was to destroy the American way of life. Before WWI we were much freer. Afterwards, we had an income tax and a central bank...both of which have wreaked havoc on our freedom and money. The whole premise of why we were involved in WWI didn't make sense, and that was why. It was nothing but a perfect opportunity for the socialists to consolidate power. If not for what happened in WWI, the depression would have never happened...and yes, Brent, I am a big fan of the site you linked to earlier in this post though I disagree with them from time to time. You must have to be pretty strong willed expressing libertarian views there in the furthest left corner of the west coast. Funny thing is I have to be just as strong willed here in the heart of Republican territory.
From: rshersh on 6 Apr 2010 14:28 On Apr 4, 9:30 pm, lil abner <@daisey.mae> wrote: > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263494/Police-secretly-photo... What exactly do you mean "secretly"? Since when does the UK have a constitution? What prohibits te govt of the UK frm doing that? As for he US, I know for a fact that the OK Tpk Authority photographs every vehicle entering an leaving the Tpk at the I-35 entrance/ exit. I would believe since it is a private domain they do it at other places. Just like Wal-mart. Furthermore, plenty of US cities such as Newark, NJ, and Miami Beach, FL train cameras on streets and intersections, not for traffic enforcement as such. But no matter, you are on a public way with a vehicle that is registered. And I guarantee you much more is coming.
From: gpsman on 6 Apr 2010 16:45
On Apr 6, 12:37 pm, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On 2010-04-06, hanco...(a)bbs.cpcn.com <hanco...(a)bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 8:16 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Remember, it's government. Government is force. Calling it "civil" is > >> just their way around our rights. They'll still use force to make you > >> pay. > > > You didn't complain when said government used force to take away > > people's private property--their land--to make the highway you like to > > drive upon. > > 1) I have complained about those built recently. > 2) I did so here. > 3) I have posted in favor of private road systems. > 4) I have posted against the government taking private property. > > so, it's you who failed to pay attention. I can't disagree. I do not recall anything that might suggest you like to drive. ----- - gpsman |