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From: D Walford on 29 Jun 2010 07:42
On 29/06/2010 8:20 PM, Noddy wrote:
> "D Walford"<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
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>
>> AFAIK canaries usually come with a fine but since I've never had one I
>> wouldn't 100% guarantee that.
>
> They haven't on any one that I've ever had, but it's been some years since
> I've had one.
>

Never had one so I could be wrong but I vaguely remember someone telling
they also got a fine for driving an unroadworthy vehicle.



Daryl
From: Doug Jewell on 29 Jun 2010 08:23
D Walford wrote:

>> Which, in turn, means that the left lane of the freeways is virtually
>> deserted because of those fucks who can't. or more accurately won't merge
>> correctly. And on it goes.
>> At my most charitable I suggest that the jerks who stay one lane out are
>> those who know they can't merge and are expecting all other drivers to be
>> the same, and you can add in those sitting there because they're
>> terrified
>> of that lot.
>> Yes, that includes the trucks, right up to B Doubles. And buses.
>
> You can't really blame heavy vehicles for not wanting to constantly mix
> with cockheads in cars who haven't got a clue how to merge, they would
> spend more time slowing down and changing lanes to avoid them and just
> as they go to move left the same cockheads will try and pass them on the
> left further increasing the danger.
> Not such a problem on freeways where there is reasonable distances
> between on/off ramps but on some of Melb's freeways on/off ramps are
> very close together.
The other day I drove the M1 between Brisvegas and the
Goldie, a piece of road I despise. Amazing the number of
vehicles (including trucks), that merged in from the left,
moved to lane 2, then moved to lane 3, and then just sat
there. Lane 3 was practically bumper to bumper, lane 4 was
quite busy with people overtaking lane 3. Meanwhile, lanes 1
and 2 were practically deserted. I had a very quick run,
mostly in the leftmost 2 lanes. I know you technically
aren't supposed to overtake on the left, but when the 2
rightmost lanes are moving at about 90 & 100 (110 zone), and
the 2 leftmost lanes are almost clear of traffic, I'll take
the empty lanes thanks.

I can't blame people for wanting to avoid the leftmost lane
though - there are some absolutely stupid fuckups of merging
lanes in Brisbane. Quite a few where they have put hedges or
concrete barriers that stop you being able to see what
traffic is on the motorway until you have to merge with it,
and more than a few with tight 30km/hr turns, and then you
are meant to merge with traffic going 80-100 as soon as you
complete the turn. Yes I know there are more than a few
drivers who can't merge properly even with a clear 500m
lane, but those merging lanes seem to be in the minority in
brisbane.
>
>
> Daryl


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From: Noddy on 29 Jun 2010 08:48

"The Raven" <swilson150(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> In Vic I undertstand the only people authorised to determine road
> worthiness is a RWC inspector. A police office can *reasonably suspect* a
> car of being unraodworthy by issuing a canary, which suspends the cars
> registration (which still expires) until such time as a RWC inspection is
> completed and passed.

Which is usually why they write "inspection incomplete" on the back of a
canary. It's a form of admission that they *suspect* there is a problem
(and/or other problems) but they're not qualified to know for sure.

> Depending on the description on the back of the canary, the vehicle may
> either be driven for a limited period of time (go home) or suspended
> immediately.

It used to be three days from the date of the issuing of the notice, and
only then could the vehicle be driven to or from a place where the repair
work was being carried out.

> The canary says my registration is suspended. So, if I get the car to meet
> RWC spec (and in my case an Engineers Certificate) do I get the remaining
> portion of my regsitration carried over......despite it being about 15
> years ago?

I'd doubt it.

As far as I'm aware, if a canary wasn't removed within 90 days of it being
issues the vehicle's registration was cancelled.

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From: Noddy on 29 Jun 2010 08:51

"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
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> Never had one so I could be wrong but I vaguely remember someone telling
> they also got a fine for driving an unroadworthy vehicle.

It's a gray area.

You can be unknowingly driving an unroadworthy vehicle, such as one with a
taillight not working for example, and while you'd be stiff to get a canary
for it that hardly deserves a fine. The subsequent costs of getting the
canary removed is more than enough punishment for a 3 buck taillight globe.

However, you can get fined for knowingly driving a dangerous vehicle, such
as one without working brakes for example.

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Regards,
Noddy.


From: The Raven on 29 Jun 2010 17:52
"Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message
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> "The Raven" <swilson150(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4c29d2f8$0$7966$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>> In Vic I undertstand the only people authorised to determine road
>> worthiness is a RWC inspector. A police office can *reasonably suspect* a
>> car of being unraodworthy by issuing a canary, which suspends the cars
>> registration (which still expires) until such time as a RWC inspection is
>> completed and passed.
>
> Which is usually why they write "inspection incomplete" on the back of a
> canary. It's a form of admission that they *suspect* there is a problem
> (and/or other problems) but they're not qualified to know for sure.

I'll have to take a look at mine, assuming the ink has faded away to
nothing.

>
>> Depending on the description on the back of the canary, the vehicle may
>> either be driven for a limited period of time (go home) or suspended
>> immediately.
>
> It used to be three days from the date of the issuing of the notice, and
> only then could the vehicle be driven to or from a place where the repair
> work was being carried out.

I recall having 7 days but, it could have been less.

>
>> The canary says my registration is suspended. So, if I get the car to
>> meet RWC spec (and in my case an Engineers Certificate) do I get the
>> remaining portion of my regsitration carried over......despite it being
>> about 15 years ago?
>
> I'd doubt it.

Yeah, I figure that. However, the canary does state 'suspended' as opposed
to cancelled *AND* I never received notification of cancellation....

> As far as I'm aware, if a canary wasn't removed within 90 days of it being
> issues the vehicle's registration was cancelled.

Interesting.



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