From: Ret. on
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10454356.stm

Half of all fatal road crashes occur on one-tenth of Britain's roads,
according to charity the Road Safety Foundation.

Its report, covering 28,000 miles of A-roads and motorways, says Scotland
has the highest risk highways, followed by parts of northern England.

It identified the A537 between Macclesfield, Cheshire, and Buxton,
Derbyshire, as the most dangerous road.

The charity wants government spending to be targeted at improving safety on
the most dangerous roads.

Its report, entitled Saving Lives for Less, suggests the high cost of
emergency services and hospitals could be avoided by spending small sums in
accident blackspots.

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I used to police the A537 between Macclesfield and the Cat 'n Fiddle pub
where the border with Derbyshire begins.

The road is very twisty - but perfectly safe if driven along sensibly. The
problem is that it's a magnet for bikers who are not out for a scenic drive,
but rather to see just how fast they can negotiate the road.

Inevitably a large number of them find to their cost that they can *not*
safely negotiate the road at high speed and they come to grief:

In June 2008 the road was yet again named as the most dangerous road in
Britain by the Road Safety Foundation. This single-carriageway route was the
location for 21 fatal and serious crashes, and was rated in the EuroRAP
report as Black, the highest risk rating. This is in spite of a number of
countermeasures installed by the road authority, including
motorcycle-friendly barriers. The Foundation attributes this high number of
accidents to road-user behaviour; indeed, when motorcycle-related collisions
are removed from the results the road becomes one of the safest in the
country.

(So it is simply down to idiot boy-racer bikers...)

Cheshire County Council also point the finger at motorcyclists' behaviour:
"The fact is that it's an attractive road to motorcyclists - they see it as
a challenge to ride with its hairpin bends, limited views, downhill descent
and uphill ascent.

"The thing that angers us most is not the fact that it's dangerous, but that
there are a group of people on that road who knowingly push the boundaries.

"We have tried to get the message across, that it is the emergency services
that have to pick these people up off the road and have the duty of telling
their families that they have killed themselves."

I just wonder why the taxpayer should have to fork out a lot of money to
protect idiot bikers from themselves. It's not the road - it's them.

--
Kev

From: Chris Bartram on
On 30/06/2010 09:01, Ret. wrote:

> The problem is that it's a magnet for bikers who are not out for a
> scenic drive, but rather to see just how fast they can negotiate the road.


> Inevitably a large number of them find to their cost that they can *not*
> safely negotiate the road at high speed and they come to grief:
>

[snip]

>
> (So it is simply down to idiot boy-racer bikers...)
>
Be fair, it's also car drivers running out of talent and/or road, not
just bikes.
From: Ret. on
Chris Bartram wrote:
> On 30/06/2010 09:01, Ret. wrote:
>
>> The problem is that it's a magnet for bikers who are not out for a
>> scenic drive, but rather to see just how fast they can negotiate the
>> road.
>
>
>> Inevitably a large number of them find to their cost that they can
>> *not* safely negotiate the road at high speed and they come to grief:
>>
>
> [snip]
>
>>
>> (So it is simply down to idiot boy-racer bikers...)
>>
> Be fair, it's also car drivers running out of talent and/or road, not
> just bikes.

You may have missed:

"The Foundation attributes this high number of accidents to road-user
behaviour; indeed, when motorcycle-related collisions are removed from the
results the road becomes one of the safest in the country."

So while it is certainly not unknown for car drivers to run out of road on
this stretch - it is, in the main, the bikers who are killing themselves.

I note from a most recent article that the authorities are installing
average speed cameras that will cover the entire length of road. This may
help to keep speeds down.

--
Kev

From: Adrian on
"mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>>> I note from a most recent article that the authorities are installing
>>> average speed cameras that will cover the entire length of road. This
>>> may help to keep speeds down.

>> That's nice, dear.
>>
>> Will it do anything to reduce inattention and fuckwittery?

> Possibly not

Thank you.

> but speed reduction tends to reduce the severity of any collision

Which I'd rather they avoided completely in the first place.

> and allows more time for the said inattentive fuckwit to notice what is
> happening and perhaps avoid the incident.

If they were paying attention in the first place, they wouldn't need
extra time to notice what's happening.
From: mileburner on

"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:890q4fFjm0U54(a)mid.individual.net...
> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>>>> I note from a most recent article that the authorities are installing
>>>> average speed cameras that will cover the entire length of road. This
>>>> may help to keep speeds down.
>
>>> That's nice, dear.
>>>
>>> Will it do anything to reduce inattention and fuckwittery?
>
>> Possibly not
>
> Thank you.
>
>> but speed reduction tends to reduce the severity of any collision
>
> Which I'd rather they avoided completely in the first place.
>
>> and allows more time for the said inattentive fuckwit to notice what is
>> happening and perhaps avoid the incident.
>
> If they were paying attention in the first place, they wouldn't need
> extra time to notice what's happening.

While I agree with your points, there seems to me to be only two possible
solutions.

[1] Remove the fuckwits from the road. (e.g. regular testing, education or
just take their licences away).

[2] Legislate and control them so they are less likely to cause incidents.
(e.g. speed limits, traffic calming, speed cameras).


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