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From: richard on 15 May 2010 22:47
On Sat, 15 May 2010 15:46:08 -0400, necromancer wrote:

> On Sat, 15 May 2010 09:32:10 -0700, richard <member(a)newsguy.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 15 May 2010 09:19:41 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:
>>
>>> So what's the best anti-theft device? A car alarm that can broad cast
>>> to you that your car is being tampered with (with like a quarter mile
>>> range, a loJack, a fuel cut off, a steering wheel lock, or ?????
>>
>>
>>
>>actually, there is a better device or two.
>>lojack will only phone home when the computer is connected to an online
>>computer in a shop.
>
> http://www.lojack.com/car/pages/car-works.aspx
>
> HTH...

thanks. I always thought it was part of the car's computer system.


--
I learned my lesson well. You can't please everyone, so you got to please
yourself.
- Ricky Nelson from "Garden Party"
From: gpsman on 16 May 2010 22:48
On May 16, 11:29 am, Evan Platt <e...(a)theobvious.espphotography.com>
wrote:
> On Sun, 16 May 2010 00:18:33 -0700, Scott in SoCal
>
> <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Evan Platt, meet Richard Bullis:
>
> >http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Richard_Bullis
>
> Oh trust me. I know st00pid.

Then you should meet Scott, the only person in history to cite Bullis
in support of their argument.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.driving/msg/d76b1c8942c6fdb4?hl=en&dmode=source
-----

- gpsman
From: Alexander Rogge on 17 May 2010 17:00
Scott in SoCal wrote:
> Imagine being able to disable the engine on
> your stolen car by punching a few keys on your cell phone. Or, even
> better, floor the accelerator and steer the car into a concrete wall.
> I call this feature "Stolen Vehicle Speedup." :)

Toyota already has this feature. It may also be a feature on the cars
that have been driven into business establishments and houses, by
drivers that claimed the cause to be Pedal Error.

> Ideally
> there would be no indication that the system is even present in the
> car; the thief can't disable it if he doesn't know it's there.

It's nice to be driving in an area where you can leave your car open and
unlocked, using no security system, and nobody tampers with it or tries
to steal it. There is a greater chance that somebody will crash into my
parked car than steal it. Then I'll probably go outside in an hour and
my car will be gone.
From: Arif Khokar on 19 May 2010 18:58
On 5/18/2010 11:13 PM, Evan Platt wrote:
> On Mon, 17 May 2010 22:26:06 -0700, Scott in SoCal
> <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:


>> His was a starter kill, I believe - which they bypassed by
>> push-starting.

> Hmm... so how did they DRIVE the car? Don't most cars have a steering
> column lock - such that no key, no steering? And on top of that, no
> key, you can't take the car out of park? I couldn't even take my car
> out of park unless the key was in the acc position. Just the key in
> and one click forward (not sure what setting that is) I couldn't put
> the car out of park.

Now I'm waiting for you to tell all of us how you would go about
push-starting a car with an automatic transmission ...
From: Brent on 19 May 2010 19:09
On 2010-05-19, Evan Platt <evan(a)theobvious.espphotography.com> wrote:

> Hmm... so how did they DRIVE the car? Don't most cars have a steering
> column lock - such that no key, no steering? And on top of that, no
> key, you can't take the car out of park? I couldn't even take my car
> out of park unless the key was in the acc position. Just the key in
> and one click forward (not sure what setting that is) I couldn't put
> the car out of park.

Three ways to over come a steering wheel lock:
1) Slide hammer to forcibly remove the ignition lock. With the lock
removed something could be inserted into the hole to turn the switch
inside the column.
2) hammering a screwdriver or other metal tool into the ignition lock.
(make a key by force, essentially breaking the lock)
3) drilling in the right place to remove the ignition lock, or as most
of the morons do, smash up the steering column housing until they can by
pass the ignition lock or they give up and go to another car.

Knowing what to do with a particular model car is the key.

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