From: Doug on
On 18 May, 19:41, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > On 17 May, 18:31, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
> > blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Roger Thorpe wrote:
> >>> Mrcheerful wrote:
>
> >>>> the police driver would have been able to see that the cyclist had
> >>>> stopped completely (and well short of the centre island, well
> >>>> done!), which means the cyclist is NOT about to wobble all over the
> >>>> road or suddenly jump 5 feet to the right, and therefore can be
> >>>> passed quite closely without any significant danger.
> >>>> if it was a horse then yes, the police should have passed much more
> >>>> carefully, but this is an obviously (from the recumbent)
> >>>> experienced (probably adult) cyclist that has completely stopped.
>
> >>> If we assume that it were safe would it still be good manners to
> >>> give someone who expects not to be seen this kind of fright?
>
> >> Why was it a fright? He must have heard the sirens.
>
> > Because he is not protected by a metal box and is therefore a
> > vulnerable road user but is not treated as such.
>
> So you agree a push bike is not a viable form of transport?  At last.
>
No its killer drivers who are not viable, in anywhere pretending to be
a safety conscious society to live in. They mow down children on
pavements as well as adults on roads and cyclists.

Unless you are suggesting that cars are the only way for humans to
move around these days, which make shopping and other activities
impossible?
>
>
> >> The man is a well known knob. He has posted dozens of films on
> >> youtube to show how hard done by he is. Bit like Doug, but with a
> >> camera.
>
> > Seems like a good idea to video examples of bad driving and dangerous
> > situations instead of trying to brush it all under the carpet.
>
> This knob is clearly desperately looking for anything that shows how hard
> done by he is.  Two cameras on a push bike?
>
And why not?
>
> > As I
> > have cameras I might decide to start doing it, particularly drivers
> > going through red lights and driving on pavements.
>
> You won't need much film.  Drivers rarely jump lights or drive on
> pavements - that is the territory of the cyclist.
>
You'd be surprised. I take it you don't live in London. BTW, such
cameras don't use film any more.

--
UK Radical Campaigns.
http://www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.

From: JMS jmsmith2010 on
On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:37:38 +0100, NEWS(a)sarlet.com (Roger Merriman)
wrote:
<snip>



>though the bent is unlikely to mangage that.
>
>roger



why is that?
--
Many cyclists are proving the need for registration by their contempt for the Highway Code and laws.

The answer:
All cyclists over 16 to take compulsory test, have compulsory insurance, and be registered.
Registration number to be clearly visible on the back of mandatory hi-viz vest.
Habitual law breakers' cycles confiscated and crushed.
(With thanks to KeithT for the idea)

From: JMS jmsmith2010 on
On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:35:09 +0100, bugbear
<bugbear(a)trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote:

<snip>


>>>> You know - two hands on the handle bars - one or two feet on the floor
>>>> - that sort of thing.
>>>>
>>> I don't think that you've ever ridden a recumbent then.
>>
>>
>> Did I say I had.
>
>No. But strangely, you *were* handing out ill founded opinions on how to ride one.
>
> BugBear


So you ride one by putting your foot down, do you?

I was not advising on how to ride one.

No doubt you will be able to explain why the rider of the recumbent
could not put down a foot or feet?

Are you suggesting that they are inherently unstable - perhaps should
not be on the road?
--
Many cyclists are proving the need for registration by their contempt for the Highway Code and laws.

The answer:
All cyclists over 16 to take compulsory test, have compulsory insurance, and be registered.
Registration number to be clearly visible on the back of mandatory hi-viz vest.
Habitual law breakers' cycles confiscated and crushed.
(With thanks to KeithT for the idea)

From: GT on
"Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
news:3d99d6b2-243f-41fa-ac2d-7c906a75150a(a)z17g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
On 18 May, 10:48, "Bernard" <bernard.x.rams...(a)btinterent.x.com>
wrote:
> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
>
> news:3c8080bc-d0fc-4804-87ad-ceb36d8f65bc(a)m4g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> On 17 May, 18:31, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-
>
> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > Roger Thorpe wrote:
> > > Mrcheerful wrote:
>
> > >> the police driver would have been able to see that the cyclist had
> > >> stopped completely (and well short of the centre island, well
> > >> done!), which means the cyclist is NOT about to wobble all over the
> > >> road or suddenly jump 5 feet to the right, and therefore can be
> > >> passed quite closely without any significant danger.
> > >> if it was a horse then yes, the police should have passed much more
> > >> carefully, but this is an obviously (from the recumbent) experienced
> > >> (probably adult) cyclist that has completely stopped.
>
> > > If we assume that it were safe would it still be good manners to give
> > > someone who expects not to be seen this kind of fright?
>
> > Why was it a fright? He must have heard the sirens.
>
> Because he is not protected by a metal box and is therefore a
> vulnerable road user but is not treated as such.
>
> This was not a normal situation, it was an emergency which he realised
> because he stopped. If he was worried because he felt vulnerable, he
> should
> have got off the road.
>

Doug said:
"But we know by now that the pavements are not much safer from crashing
cars, which can also knock holes in walls. Difficult to know where is
safe from these pampered killers."


I'm sure there's a safe place in your head somewhere - there certainly seems
to be plenty of space.

Incidentally, whatever software you are using to post replies here has been
wrongly configured - you need to fix your indent character.


From: Happi Monday on
On 18/05/2010 19:46, The Medway Handyman wrote:
> Phil W Lee wrote:
>> ChelseaTractorMan<mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> considered Tue, 18 May
>> 2010 09:58:49 +0100 the perfect time to write:
>>
>>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 18:31:07 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
>>> <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The man is a well known knob. He has posted dozens of films on
>>>> youtube to show how hard done by he is. Bit like Doug, but with a
>>>> camera.
>>>
>>> anyone who keeps two bicycles running the whole time and drives the
>>> pair of them with an oversized gas-guzzling engine in order to avoid
>>> exercise
>>> runs a good chance of being a fanatical prick.
>>
>> IFTFY
>
> ITYAACC.

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