From: Bob Cooper on
In article <0ae546ee-0551-4461-b091-
8c5a097a99ef(a)b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Mark_Ransley(a)Yahoo.com
says...
>
> On Feb 23, 7:35�pm, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
> > A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began accelerating
> > uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no effect, I stepped
> > on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the emergency brake and it
> > had no effect, I even tried to put the car into reverse and I couldn't."
> >
> > Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with a
> > clue on this one.
> >
> > BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>
> Now the bull starts, and you are the one starting it. Did you know 70%
> of Toyotas complaints for self acceleration don`t even cover the
> recalled cars, that is from Toyotas own internal documents. And of
> course you were with the lady when her occurance happened, so you Know
> its bull for a fact.

Uh, you must be mistaken.
This fellow knows quite a bit about cars.
And his auto insights have shown the Toyota problem is really GM's
fault, along with Toyota owners who have lied before Congress.
I would go so far as to say he is the world's foremost expert.
And he has been kind enough to bring his Toyota insights to the tech
group to educate all of us who do mechanical work on cars.
I can't tell tell you how much we appreciate that.

From: Bob Jones on

"FatterDumber& Happier Moe" <"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote in
message news:4b8461d4$0$12449$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net...
> Hachiroku wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:44:00 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2010.02.24.01.35.55.953000(a)e86.GTS...
>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>>>> accelerating
>>>> uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no effect, I
>>>> stepped
>>>> on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the emergency brake and
>>>> it
>>>> had no effect, I even tried to put the car into reverse and I
>>>> couldn't."
>>>>
>>>> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with
>>>> with a
>>>> clue on this one.
>>>>
>>>> BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>>>
>>> She forgot to mention that she was going down a steep 2 mile hill at the
>>> time, and drafting an 18 wheeler.
>>
>>
>> I missed the drafting part...
>>
>>
>
> Here's the steep hill,
> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=TM&t=5d&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

In an effort to change the "boring to drive" image, Toyota was partnering
with Subaru to build more exciting cars. Well, they really did it. Toyota
cars are now extremely exciting.


From: ben91932 on


>
> Did you know 70%
> of Toyotas complaints for self acceleration don`t even cover the
> recalled cars, that is from Toyotas own internal documents.

I wound *never* trust a claim like this from *any* corporation. Fox,
henhouse etc
Ben
From: M.A. Stewart on
FatterDumber& Happier Moe ("WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee) writes:
> Hachiroku wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:44:00 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2010.02.24.01.35.55.953000(a)e86.GTS...
>>>> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began accelerating
>>>> uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no effect, I stepped
>>>> on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the emergency brake and it
>>>> had no effect, I even tried to put the car into reverse and I couldn't."
>>>>
>>>> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with a
>>>> clue on this one.
>>>>
>>>> BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>>>
>>> She forgot to mention that she was going down a steep 2 mile hill at the
>>> time, and drafting an 18 wheeler.
>>
>>
>> I missed the drafting part...

>>
>>
>
> Here's the steep hill,
> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=TM&t=5d&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=


Is it as steep as this?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MTLQQ.PK&t=my&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

GM stock from 1965-ish to present.



From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:59:48 -0600, Bob Cooper wrote:

> In article <0ae546ee-0551-4461-b091-
> 8c5a097a99ef(a)b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Mark_Ransley(a)Yahoo.com says...
>>
>> On Feb 23, 7:35 pm, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>> > A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>> > accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>> > effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>> > emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car into
>> > reverse and I couldn't."
>> >
>> > Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with
>> > with a clue on this one.
>> >
>> > BTW< the car was a Lexus.
>>
>> Now the bull starts, and you are the one starting it. Did you know 70%
>> of Toyotas complaints for self acceleration don`t even cover the
>> recalled cars, that is from Toyotas own internal documents. And of
>> course you were with the lady when her occurance happened, so you Know
>> its bull for a fact.
>
> Uh, you must be mistaken.
> This fellow knows quite a bit about cars. And his auto insights have shown
> the Toyota problem is really GM's fault, along with Toyota owners who have
> lied before Congress. I would go so far as to say he is the world's
> foremost expert. And he has been kind enough to bring his Toyota insights
> to the tech group to educate all of us who do mechanical work on cars. I
> can't tell tell you how much we appreciate that.


Don't mention it. Any time you need any help, you just ask me.
I'd be glad to help you out. You do know what a car is, right?

Here, one more time for you:

>> > A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began
>> > accelerating uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no
>> > effect, I stepped on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the
>> > emergency brake and it had no effect, I even tried to put the car into
>> > reverse and I couldn't."