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From: Neo on 27 Feb 2010 15:48 On Feb 23, 8:35 pm, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began accelerating > uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no effect, I stepped > on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the emergency brake and it > had no effect, I even tried to put the car into reverse and I couldn't." > > Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with a > clue on this one. > > BTW< the car was a Lexus. driver = Mrs. Rhonda Smith of Servierville, Tenn Car = 2007 Lexus ES350 Event date = October 2006 Event location = I-40, Tennessee Event Car Mileage: 3000 miles Current Car Mileage: 30000 miles Event description = The driver testified before congress that her car accelerates to 100mph. as she attempted to slow it down using her brakes, emergency brakes, by shifting the car into neutral, and by shifting the car into reverse. After 6 miles the car stops[1]. Ms. Smith trade in her 2007 Lexus ES350 after 3000 miles. It was purchased by another family whom has since driven it another 27000 miles without incident until the NHTSA has purchased it for testing at its Vehicle Research and Test Center in East Liberty, Ohio. It has been reported that the NHTSA purchased the car for about $42,500 for testing [2]. The blue book value of the car in good condition is $23,185. [1] http://www.startribune.com/business/84955817.html http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100223/ARTICLES/100229805 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/23/national/main6234834.shtml http://www.factsaboutclimatechange.com/topic/Automotive+Technology [2] http://www.factsaboutclimatechange.com/topic/Automotive+Technology http://www.factsaboutclimatechange.com/article/U.S.%20to%20test%20Lexus%20model%20cited%20in%20Toyota%20hearings/?k=j83s12y12h94s27k02 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/shame-on-you-rhonda-smith/ http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2010/02/nhtsa-to-test-lexus-vehicle-investigate-electronics-for-all-automakers.html http://www.detnews.com/article/20100226/AUTO01/2260443/1148/rss25 http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2010/02/nhtsa_buys_car_belonging_to_ru.html?hpid=topnews
From: Not Me on 27 Feb 2010 17:43 Neo wrote: > On Feb 23, 8:35 pm, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began accelerating >> uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no effect, I stepped >> on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the emergency brake and it >> had no effect, I even tried to put the car into reverse and I couldn't." >> >> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with a >> clue on this one. >> >> BTW< the car was a Lexus. > > driver = Mrs. Rhonda Smith of Servierville, Tenn > Car = 2007 Lexus ES350 > Event date = October 2006 > Event location = I-40, Tennessee > Event Car Mileage: 3000 miles > Current Car Mileage: 30000 miles > > Event description = The driver testified > before congress that her car accelerates to > 100mph. as she attempted to slow it down > using her brakes, emergency brakes, by > shifting the car into neutral, and by > shifting the car into reverse. After > 6 miles the car stops[1]. > > Ms. Smith trade in her 2007 Lexus ES350 > after 3000 miles. It was purchased by > another family whom has since driven > it another 27000 miles without incident > until the NHTSA has purchased it for > testing at its Vehicle Research and Test > Center in East Liberty, Ohio. It has > been reported that the NHTSA > purchased the car for about > $42,500 for testing [2]. The > blue book value of the car in good > condition is $23,185. > Sure, but this one had celebrity status...
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Feb 2010 19:41 On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:48:17 -0800, Neo wrote: >> Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with >> a clue on this one. >> >> BTW< the car was a Lexus. > > driver = Mrs. Rhonda Smith of Servierville, Tenn Car = 2007 Lexus ES350 > Event date = October 2006 > Event location = I-40, Tennessee > Event Car Mileage: 3000 miles > Current Car Mileage: 30000 miles > > Event description = The driver testified before congress that her car > accelerates to 100mph. as she attempted to slow it down using her brakes, > emergency brakes, by shifting the car into neutral, and by shifting the > car into reverse. After > 6 miles the car stops[1]. > > Ms. Smith trade in her 2007 Lexus ES350 after 3000 miles. It was purchased > by another family whom has since driven > it another 27000 miles without incident until the NHTSA has purchased it > for > testing at its Vehicle Research and Test Center in East Liberty, Ohio. It > has > been reported that the NHTSA > purchased the car for about > $42,500 for testing [2]. The > blue book value of the car in good > condition is $23,185. 3,000 miles and she never bothered to read the Owner's Manual or familiarize herself with the controls. I hope THIS is what she's driving now... http://www.tennesseelimo.com/
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 27 Feb 2010 19:43 On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:15:05 -0600, jim wrote: >> A lot of companies have adopted it. I think Honda was one of the first >> with the S2000. > > I think it was a '46 chevy coupe that was the first car I saw where you > pushed a button on the dash to start the car. It was considered cutting > edge technology. A big step forward from stepping on a pedal on the floor. I was talking in terms of modern, electrically controlled ignition rather than have a button on the dash in place of a soleniod. But you knew that.
From: anniejrs on 28 Feb 2010 10:38
On Feb 23, 5:35 pm, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > A woman testified before Congress that when her Toyota began accelerating > uncontrollably she "put the car in neutral and it had no effect, I stepped > on the brakes and it had no effect, I applied the emergency brake and it > had no effect, I even tried to put the car into reverse and I couldn't." > > Huh? Putting the car in neutral had no effect? Someone provide with with a > clue on this one. > > BTW< the car was a Lexus. She probably didn't hit the brakes in conjunction with putting it in neutral. Or my best guess; it's a ploy that will lead up to a lawsuit. |