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From: Adrian on 15 Dec 2009 17:11 "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> Three Universities, eh? I don't think having outposts of Unis based in >> Canterbury and Greenwich _really_ counts, but you feel free. > Then again you wouldn't know would you? <shrug> What do I know? My degree only comes from one of them... >>> So, which part of the UK do you reside in? >> It's hardly a state secret that I live on the edge of the Chilterns, > You mean between Luton & Reading? Congratulations, you've narrowed it down to somewhere approaching 1/4 of the circumference of London.
From: Halmyre on 15 Dec 2009 18:04 In article <7oqfolF3qai34U8(a)mid.individual.net>, toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com says... > NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > > >> You've heard of Julius Caesar though? He died over 2000 years ago. ;-) > > > What was he in? > > A play, written by some bearded bloke from the midlands. I forget what it > was called. > The Last of the Summer Wine? That's been running for about 2000 years. "Et tu, Compo?" -- Halmyre This is the most powerful sigfile in the world and will probably blow your head clean off.
From: The Medway Handyman on 15 Dec 2009 19:07 Adrian wrote: > "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled > happily, sounding much like they were saying: > >>> Three Universities, eh? I don't think having outposts of Unis based >>> in Canterbury and Greenwich _really_ counts, but you feel free. > >> Then again you wouldn't know would you? > > <shrug> What do I know? My degree only comes from one of them... What? A degree in stupidity? Too thick to name the 3rd one I see? > >>>> So, which part of the UK do you reside in? > >>> It's hardly a state secret that I live on the edge of the Chilterns, > >> You mean between Luton & Reading? > > Congratulations, you've narrowed it down to somewhere approaching 1/4 > of the circumference of London. I didn't fuckwit, you did. "the edge of the Chilterns". Congratulations, you've narrowed it down to between Luton & Reading and Hemel & Aylesbury. Which contains some of the most god awful places in the UK. "the edge of the Chilterns" rather than a specific location suggests you have something to hide. -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: The Medway Handyman on 15 Dec 2009 19:10 Adrian wrote: > NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > >>> You've heard of Julius Caesar though? He died over 2000 years ago. >>> ;-) > >> What was he in? > > A play, written by some bearded bloke from the midlands. I forget > what it was called. Didn't he own a kebab shop in Luton? Oops, sorry, I meant a kebab shop on th edge of the Chilterns. -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: NM on 16 Dec 2009 01:35
On Dec 16, 4:06 am, Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote: > "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> considered > Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:17:30 GMT the perfect time to write: > > > > >Phil W Lee wrote: > >> "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> considered > >> Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:40:27 GMT the perfect time to write: > > >>> Mas...(a)BP.com wrote: > >>>> On 14 Dec, 15:44, Peter Grange <pe...(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:15:42 +0000, ChelseaTractorMan > > >>>>> <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:14:23 +0000, Peter Grange > >>>>>> <pe...(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > >>>>>>> I was responding to "Cyclists don't pay VED". I am a cyclist, I > >>>>>>> pay VED. The End. > > >>>>>> Not the end. VED is charged to car owners, if a car owner happens > >>>>>> to cycle that does not demonstrate anything at all. Stupid point. > > >>>>> Not stupid at all. Pedantic maybe, but I'm trying to get through > >>>>> to a man who wants me to pay a tax that doesn't exist. How stupid > >>>>> is that? > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> Pete - The Tax Paying Driving Licence Owning Cyclist > > >>>> Not only that, he wants to create a *new tax* that will costs > >>>> millions in admin and which will charge its recipients precisely > >>>> nothing. > > >>> Who said I wanted to charge cyclists nothing? I want the > >>> freeloaders to pay their share. > > >> So you'll be supporting moves to raise motoring taxes to a level that > >> accurately reflects the costs to the taxpayer of providing the > >> facilities they make necessary then? > > >I'd support moves to change motoring taxes to a level that reflects the > >costs of roads - because them us motorists would all get a rebate. > > >> That way, the costs to the general taxpayer of providing motoring > >> facilities would be zero, > > >They already are. > > >> and the excess general tax could be > >> redirected to providing far better cycling facilities, as well as > >> enabling a massive reduction in general taxation. > > >Spoken like a true sponging freeloader. Get tax paying motorists to provide > >facilities to cyclists who don't pay to use th eroads. > > I know you're thick, so I'll type this slowly. > > The cost of motoring to society is about twice as much as the taxes > raised directly from motoring, > > That means that in order not to be spongers, the motorists would need > to pay twice as much in taxation on motoring. > > That's right - for every pound a motorist pays in fuel duty, VED, VAT > on fuel and other motoring costs, another pound has to be contributed > from general taxation just to keep the system going. > > Of course, a large part of that 50% comes from motorists as well, but > in the form of council tax, income tax, VAT on non motoring related > purchases, etc. > > But the cyclists, pedestrians and public transport users pay that too. > > And the amount contributed by the cyclists (and even more so by > pedestrians) exceeds by far the cost of providing for them. > > Now, print this out and take it to your nearest adult education > centre, and they will explain it to you, since you clearly need the > help in comprehension that they are best equipped to provide. Total bullshit, for the third time of asking where the figures to support these laughable assertions. |