Mark Scaife calls for 140km/h limit on VIC freeways
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From: Bernd Felsche on 13 Jun 2010 06:10 "Trevor Wilson" <trevor(a)rageaudio.com.au> wrote: >"Athol" <athol_SPIT_SPAM(a)idl.net.au> wrote: >> http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/v8-supercar-driver-mark-skaife-calls-for-speed-limit-on-victorian-freeways-to-be-lifted-to-140kmh/story-e6freon6-1225879007580?from=public_rss >> Apparently there'll be a TV program on it at 6:30pm today on channel 7. >**He made some valid points, but, IMO, he left out a few important ones: >* He failed to impress on the viewers just how tough it is to obtain a >driver's license in Germany. There is only a little time to get a message across. Too quick for you: Skaife, an Order Of Australia medal recipient in 2004, said the Brumby Government and police should focus more on dodgy drivers rather than speeding. "We must encourage young people to drive safer, in newer cars, encourage the Government to design better roads and safer roads and our driver-learner system has to get better," he said. Gosh. Does he have to say "like in Germany"? Oh: Skaife, who recently returned from a five-day driving safety study tour of Germany, said the mentality of Australian drivers needed to change. >* He failed to push for strict power/weight ratios for young drivers. It's a meaningless measure. Pointless exercise. It can produce no positive outcome while inconveniencing lots of people and making young drivers go out and buy another car as they're not allowedto drive the family one. >* He failed to mention that the German road network is supported by a >population of 82 million people and a land area of 349,000 sq km. >Australia's land area is more than 7 MILLION sq km. Australia's population occupies not much more area than Germany's. Although e.g. all of Germany fits into WA 5 times, only a few percent of WA's area is populated. In Germany; you have trouble finding places that are more than 3 km from the next town. There are over 40 million registered cars in Germany, and they get a few million extrain transit traffic at any time (except Sunday). The MAJOR difference in population distribution is that Germany is highly decentralised. Most people don't work in a "big smoke". All but a few Germany cities are conurbations of largely independent towns that have grown together. That substantially alters the daily travel habits; as well as a tax rebate for those who have to commute a long way between home and work. >* He failed to mention that Germany has a stunning public transport system. >Australia does not. Germany doesn't have a "stunning" public transport system. It's expensive and fragile. I decided to stop relying on it for other than "CBD" trips after spending far too many hours waiting for trains, and having to walk *briskly* for up to an hour to get where I wanted to, from the nearest train/tram/bus stop. -- /"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | If builders built buildings the way programmers X against HTML mail | wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that / \ and postings | came along would destroy civilization.
From: Lindsay on 13 Jun 2010 06:55 "Trevor Wilson" <trevor(a)rageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:87jmt9F9jeU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Athol" <athol_SPIT_SPAM(a)idl.net.au> wrote in message > news:1276400086.762014(a)idlwebserver.idl.com.au... >> http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/v8-supercar-driver-mark-skaife-calls-for-speed-limit-on-victorian-freeways-to-be-lifted-to-140kmh/story-e6freon6-1225879007580?from=public_rss >> >> Apparently there'll be a TV program on it at 6:30pm today on channel 7. >> > > **He made some valid points, but, IMO, he left out a few important ones: > > * He failed to impress on the viewers just how tough it is to obtain a > driver's license in Germany. I didnt see the show, but he IS pushing for harder licensing.. > * He failed to push for strict power/weight ratios for young drivers. You can still kill yourself in a datsun 180b at 110kmh.... > * He failed to mention that the German road network is supported by a > population of 82 million people and a land area of 349,000 sq km. > Australia's land area is more than 7 MILLION sq km. Lucky he was talking about VICTORIA, and not Australia then, eh? > * He failed to mention that Germany has a stunning public transport > system. Australia does not. What public transport takes you to , say, Dargo? I support his ideas to some extent, although I think 140 is a bit much. Geelong Rd/Princes hwy is screaming for a higher speed limit. It's currently 100 kmh, dead flat, at least 3 lanes both ways, and up to 5 lanes in some areas..) nearly dead straight, has oncoming traffic protection (cheesecutters), and a shitload of fixed speed cameras. Princes Highway/Freeway between Warragul and Traralgon is 2 lanes both ways, twisty in parts, undulating over the whole lot, poor quality road surface, no protection from head on traffic in parts, and is 110kmh. Why is that?
From: Lindsay on 13 Jun 2010 06:57 "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message news:4c147c24$0$28652$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Athol wrote: >> http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/v8-supercar-driver-mark-skaife-calls-for-speed-limit-on-victorian-freeways-to-be-lifted-to-140kmh/story-e6freon6-1225879007580?from=public_rss >> >> Apparently there'll be a TV program on it at 6:30pm today on channel >> 7. > > He should shut up and concentrate on driving. ... and figuring out where 1st and 3rd is on his gearbox... :)
From: D Walford on 13 Jun 2010 07:30 On 13/06/2010 8:55 PM, Lindsay wrote: > I support his ideas to some extent, although I think 140 is a bit much. > Geelong Rd/Princes hwy is screaming for a higher speed limit. > It's currently 100 kmh, dead flat, at least 3 lanes both ways, and up to 5 > lanes in some areas..) nearly dead straight, has oncoming traffic protection > (cheesecutters), and a shitload of fixed speed cameras. > > Princes Highway/Freeway between Warragul and Traralgon is 2 lanes both ways, > twisty in parts, undulating over the whole lot, poor quality road surface, > no protection from head on traffic in parts, and is 110kmh. > > Why is that? > > Who knows, many speed limits make no sense, some too low many too high. Daryl
From: Lindsay on 13 Jun 2010 07:41
"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:4c14c1ab$0$14163$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > On 13/06/2010 8:55 PM, Lindsay wrote: > >> I support his ideas to some extent, although I think 140 is a bit much. >> Geelong Rd/Princes hwy is screaming for a higher speed limit. >> It's currently 100 kmh, dead flat, at least 3 lanes both ways, and up to >> 5 >> lanes in some areas..) nearly dead straight, has oncoming traffic >> protection >> (cheesecutters), and a shitload of fixed speed cameras. >> >> Princes Highway/Freeway between Warragul and Traralgon is 2 lanes both >> ways, >> twisty in parts, undulating over the whole lot, poor quality road >> surface, >> no protection from head on traffic in parts, and is 110kmh. >> >> Why is that? >> >> > Who knows, many speed limits make no sense, some too low many too high. I know, but thats what I'm getting at.... since lives depend on it, perhaps they should make sence? |