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From: Adrian on 21 Apr 2010 08:40 "Mortimer" <me(a)privacy.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> The punctured tyre was an Alloy, the spare was a standard wheel. The >> Alloy had extra long nuts on, I had to fit shorter wheelnuts >> for the spare. > Why *do* they make allow wheels that stand further from the hub, > requiring special bolts? Because, for the same strength, aluminium alloy has to be thicker than pressed steel. The seat angle is also usually different for steels and alloys. > Or to put it another way, why don't they make the spare, even if it's > steel, the same shape so you can use the same bolts? Some manufacturers do (or did). The steel spares on both my alloy-shod Cit XM and CX had little collars on the bolt holes to allow both to use the same bolts. > As a matter of interest, what is the advantage of allow wheels over > steel ones - why do people pay extra for them? The only thing that seems > to be different is that they don't require hub-caps - a purely cosmetic > difference. Yup, that's it. Cosmetics. There _can_ be an unsprung weight difference, but often (for strength) alloys are heavier than steels - and a couple of kg of unsprung weight makes sod-all difference anyway, especially given the thoroughly shite MacPherson strut & torsion beam suspension on the typical car.
From: boltar2003 on 21 Apr 2010 08:52 On 21 Apr 2010 12:40:13 GMT Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Yup, that's it. Cosmetics. There _can_ be an unsprung weight difference, >but often (for strength) alloys are heavier than steels - and a couple of >kg of unsprung weight makes sod-all difference anyway, especially given >the thoroughly shite MacPherson strut & torsion beam suspension on the >typical car. Theres no reason that manufacturers couldn't make good looking stainless steel wheels. They just choose not to bother for whatever reason. B2003
From: Adrian on 21 Apr 2010 08:59 boltar2003(a)boltar.world gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>Yup, that's it. Cosmetics. There _can_ be an unsprung weight difference, >>but often (for strength) alloys are heavier than steels - and a couple >>of kg of unsprung weight makes sod-all difference anyway, especially >>given the thoroughly shite MacPherson strut & torsion beam suspension on >>the typical car. > Theres no reason that manufacturers couldn't make good looking stainless > steel wheels. They just choose not to bother for whatever reason. Apart from expense and weight, obviously.
From: Mike P on 21 Apr 2010 09:13 On 21 Apr, 13:13, Bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Adrian wrote: > > Bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > > saying: > > >> I can't argue with your logic, but at least she watched and learned. So > >> at least she'll have a clue next time. > > > She'd have learnt a lot better by doing it herself under instruction. > > > > > > > Yes, that's why I said I agreed with Brimstone's logic. > In retrospect, it would've been better. > > I still find it hard to believe, that out of ten blokes(all drivers), > none offered to do it for her. > > Would YOU have refused? No, I'd have done it. Have done in the past. I've even stuck post-it notes on people's drivers windows in the past when noticing they had a flat in the car park to stop them driving off ... Mike P
From: ARWadsworth on 21 Apr 2010 09:55
"Bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:8387taF4n2U3(a)mid.individual.net... > GeoffC wrote: >> Bod wrote: >>> boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: >>>> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:55:20 +0100 >>>> Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> My daughter in law rang me to change a wheel(puncture) on her car >>>>> earlier this morning. Before the call, she asked *10* men in her >>>>> offic, if they would do it for her. ALL 10 of them said they >>>>> couldn't do it or that they didn't want to get their hands dirty! >>>> They probably figured that as a woman she'd >>>> >>>> A) Not have a spare or if she did have one it'll be knackered and/or >>>> B) Not have a jack and/or >>>> C) Not have the locking nut adaptor or not know where it is and/or >>>> D) Not have a wheel brace >>>> >>>> Though none of the above are relevant if she's jaw dropping babe. I >>>> take it she isn't. >>>> >>>> B2003 >>>> >>>> >>> On the contrary, she's quite a good looker. >>> >> >> Well there are 10 blokes in her office who don't agree with you then. >> >> -- >> >> Geoff >> >> > > They must all be woofters then. > > Bod So who swaps the poofters flat tyres? Adam |