Proposed LLB Fine in GA
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From: CAHighway99 on 15 Feb 2010 03:00 On Feb 14, 8:48 pm, Harry K <turnkey4...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 14, 3:16 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Last time on rec.autos.driving, richard <mem...(a)newsguy.com> said: > > > >In regards to the law, a question. > > >Speed limit is 70. Three lanes one way. > > >I'm in the left lane at the speed limit passing vehicles in the other two > > >lanes. > > >I see some fool coming up behind me doing 75 or better. > > >According to this law, am I gonna get cited because I didn't give right of > > >way to him? > > >That's the way I read it. > > > You're the fool blocking faster traffic in the passing lane. You'll be > > the one who is cited, and you will deserve it. > > -- > > The MFFY Litmus Test: > > If your maneuver forces another driver WHO HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY > > to alter course or speed, what you did was probably MFFY. > > You do realize that you are advocating that someone _obeying_ the law > and has the ROW must yeild that ROW. If a person is actively passing > at a reasonable rate they _are_ obeying the law and have the ROW. > > You keep trying to confuse a legal manuever with LLB - it isn't and > never was. > > Demanding that a guy speed up to suit you is more of an imposition > than you having to lift your foot for a few seconds. > > Odd way of looking at things that a person with the ROW has to give it > away. > > Harry K I'm sorta in between on this issue, but really, common courtesy should go both ways. For someone looking to merge into the left lane to pass a few vehicles, check your mirrors to make sure you won't be holding up anybody trying to go (reasonably faster) than what your preferred speed is. At the same time, if you feel a need to drive 95 or 100 MPH in a 65 zone, when it's clear that you're the only person driving that fast, you really need to consider changing your own driving behavior. Certainly, it won't hurt you to "slow down" to 75 or 80 MPH to let the person in front pass some vehicles. Not like your own life is going to end, if you don't make it to your destination at time-warp speed. What's the rush, anyway?
From: Arif Khokar on 15 Feb 2010 11:20 On 2/15/2010 3:00 AM, CAHighway99 wrote: > At the same time, if you feel a need to drive 95 or 100 MPH in a 65 > zone, when it's clear that you're the only person driving that fast, > you really need to consider changing your own driving behavior. > Certainly, it won't hurt you to "slow down" to 75 or 80 MPH to let the > person in front pass some vehicles. I recall one time years ago while I was driving on the interstate at 85 mph and pulled out to pass a vehicle. I neglected to check behind me before changing lanes and noticed that within 3 seconds that another car was tailgating me. Instead of displaying a typical LLB attitude, I immediately realized that I essentially cut him off and that *I* was in the wrong. What I did next was floor it, finished my pass as fast as I could and moved back to the right lane. The driver behind me passed me and continued on his way (incidentally, I started following him and noted his speed was about 110 mph). In any case, your scenario is not realistic given the fact that so few vehicles go that much faster than traffic to begin with. Given that, it's much simpler to just allow such a vehicle to pass rather than thinking that he has to let other traffic pass first. > What's the rush, anyway? What difference does it make? Why do you choose to drive instead of taking public transit, cycling, or walking? Why do you choose to fly instead of taking the train or bus? What's your rush anyway?
From: Harry K on 15 Feb 2010 11:36 On Feb 14, 10:01 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Last time on rec.autos.driving, richard <mem...(a)newsguy.com> said: > > > > > > >On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:16:53 -0800, Scott in SoCal wrote: > > >> Last time on rec.autos.driving, richard <mem...(a)newsguy.com> said: > > >>>In regards to the law, a question. > >>>Speed limit is 70. Three lanes one way. > >>>I'm in the left lane at the speed limit passing vehicles in the other two > >>>lanes. > >>>I see some fool coming up behind me doing 75 or better. > >>>According to this law, am I gonna get cited because I didn't give right of > >>>way to him? > >>>That's the way I read it. > > >> You're the fool blocking faster traffic in the passing lane. You'll be > >> the one who is cited, and you will deserve it. > > >Excuse me sir, but I'm the one obeying the law. > > You're obeying ONE law, but you are violating another. > > Do you realize, BTW, that you are parroting the position of SADDAM? > -- > The MFFY Litmus Test: > If your maneuver forces another driver WHO HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY > to alter course or speed, what you did was probably MFFY.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The law you _think_ he is violating has nothing to do with the subject since he is actively passing a car. That law only applies to someone _cruising_ in the passing lane. But of course you will refuse to understand that just like you have after I have pointed it out repeatedly over many years. When you can find something in the LLB law that says you have to give way to faster traffic WHILE YOU ARE PASSING let us know. Harry K
From: Harry K on 15 Feb 2010 11:39 On Feb 14, 9:01 pm, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On 2010-02-15, Harry K <turnkey4...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 14, 3:16 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Last time on rec.autos.driving, richard <mem...(a)newsguy.com> said: > > >> >In regards to the law, a question. > >> >Speed limit is 70. Three lanes one way. > >> >I'm in the left lane at the speed limit passing vehicles in the other two > >> >lanes. > >> >I see some fool coming up behind me doing 75 or better. > >> >According to this law, am I gonna get cited because I didn't give right of > >> >way to him? > >> >That's the way I read it. > > >> You're the fool blocking faster traffic in the passing lane. You'll be > >> the one who is cited, and you will deserve it. > >> -- > >> The MFFY Litmus Test: > >> If your maneuver forces another driver WHO HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY > >> to alter course or speed, what you did was probably MFFY. > > > You do realize that you are advocating that someone _obeying_ the law > > and has the ROW must yeild that ROW. If a person is actively passing > > at a reasonable rate they _are_ obeying the law and have the ROW. > > > You keep trying to confuse a legal manuever with LLB - it isn't and > > never was. > > > Demanding that a guy speed up to suit you is more of an imposition > > than you having to lift your foot for a few seconds. > > > Odd way of looking at things that a person with the ROW has to give it > > away. > > The posted speed limit is irrelevant to the situation. It's usually > irrelevant to everything but to how much the armed highway men from the > government may collect. > > It's something government will never admit is that it created the > LLBing problem with it's speed limits.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Odd. I said nothing even remotly referring to the posted limit. It doesn't even apply in some states "when passing" Harry K
From: Harry K on 15 Feb 2010 11:40
On Feb 15, 12:00 am, CAHighway99 <brentrjo...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Feb 14, 8:48 pm, Harry K <turnkey4...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 14, 3:16 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Last time on rec.autos.driving, richard <mem...(a)newsguy.com> said: > > > > >In regards to the law, a question. > > > >Speed limit is 70. Three lanes one way. > > > >I'm in the left lane at the speed limit passing vehicles in the other two > > > >lanes. > > > >I see some fool coming up behind me doing 75 or better. > > > >According to this law, am I gonna get cited because I didn't give right of > > > >way to him? > > > >That's the way I read it. > > > > You're the fool blocking faster traffic in the passing lane. You'll be > > > the one who is cited, and you will deserve it. > > > -- > > > The MFFY Litmus Test: > > > If your maneuver forces another driver WHO HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY > > > to alter course or speed, what you did was probably MFFY. > > > You do realize that you are advocating that someone _obeying_ the law > > and has the ROW must yeild that ROW. If a person is actively passing > > at a reasonable rate they _are_ obeying the law and have the ROW. > > > You keep trying to confuse a legal manuever with LLB - it isn't and > > never was. > > > Demanding that a guy speed up to suit you is more of an imposition > > than you having to lift your foot for a few seconds. > > > Odd way of looking at things that a person with the ROW has to give it > > away. > > > Harry K > > I'm sorta in between on this issue, but really, common courtesy should > go both ways. For someone looking to merge into the left lane to pass > a few vehicles, check your mirrors to make sure you won't be holding > up anybody trying to go (reasonably faster) than what your preferred > speed is. > > At the same time, if you feel a need to drive 95 or 100 MPH in a 65 > zone, when it's clear that you're the only person driving that fast, > you really need to consider changing your own driving behavior. > Certainly, it won't hurt you to "slow down" to 75 or 80 MPH to let the > person in front pass some vehicles. Not like your own life is going > to end, if you don't make it to your destination at time-warp speed. > What's the rush, anyway?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Very good and reasonable. Yes, pulling out when traffic is coming up behind you is not right. Harry K |