From: Sniper8052 on
On 10 Jul, 09:07, "goo...(a)woodall.me.uk" <goo...(a)woodall.me.uk> wrote:
> On Jul 9, 11:29 pm, Tom Crispin
>
> <kije.rem...(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote:
> > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:00:08 +0000 (UTC), Tim Woodall
>
> > <devn...(a)woodall.me.uk> wrote:
> > >On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:28:49 +0100,
> > > Tom Crispin <kije.rem...(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote:
> > >> I have been offered £5,100 settlement
> > >Is the funny amount to keep it out of the small claims track and
> > >therefore have the potential for a costs award if their final offer is
> > >better than the court awards?
>
> > No idea. If £5,000 the limit for the small claims court? If so I
> > will be seriously worried about the validity of their assessment.
>
> http://www.sfla.co.uk/litigation/small-claims.htm
>
> Tim.

That advice is for all small claims, as I said earlier Personal Injury
Small Claims is £1000

The Small Claims limit for personal injury compensation cases is
£1000. This level of personal injury compensation relates to minor
injuries only and if your injury has / is likely to cause you more
than a few weeks of pain you can instruct Thompsons to deal with your
case on a cost free basis to yourself.

http://www.thompsons.law.co.uk/other-services/small-claims-court-fact-sheet..htm

Sniper8052
From: Sniper8052 on
On 9 Jul, 21:21, Alex Heney <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 02:58:14 -0700 (PDT), "Sniper8...(a)yahoo.co.uk"
>
>
>
> <Sniper8...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >On 8 Jul, 12:05, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> >> Sniper8...(a)yahoo.co.uk <Sniper8...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > On 7 Jul, 21:23, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> >> > > Nick Finnigan <n...(a)genie.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > > > If the act of opening the door (rather than leaving it open) causes
> >> > > > him to stop, then the other road user can not reasonably and safely take
> >> > > > avoiding action.
>
> >> > > Errm if the act of opening the door causes someone to stop then the
> >> > > other user has demonstrably been able to safely take the appropriate
> >> > > avoiding action, which was to stop before hitting the obstruction.
>
> >> > The offence is opening a car door to danger. The danger exists
> >> > whether or not the person approaching avoids the danger. If a driver,
> >> > or passenger for whom the driver is responsible, causes a person to
> >> > stop or swerve to avoid a collision that would have occurred had they
> >> > not taken avoiding action in the face of immanent danger then the
> >> > driver is still liable for the offence. If in taking avoiding action
> >> > a collision occurs with another road user the driver of the first
> >> > vehicle will still be liable.
>
> >> And you have a precedent for this, do you?
>
> >Nearly 15 years experience as a police officer any good?
>
> No.
> --
> Alex Heney, Global Villager
> Why did Kamakazie pilots wear helmets???
> To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

Mr B

Mr B was 16 years old and working as a motorcycle courier. As he was
driving his scooter, the door of a parked van opened into his path and
forced him into the opposite carriageway where he was struck by a
motorcycle coming in the opposite direction. Mr B sustained
catastrophic head and spinal injuries. We sued both the van driver and
Mr B's employer, the latter having provided a vehicle which Mr B was
too young and untrained to ride, and effectively the means for him to
have a serious accident. Days before the liability trial, both
Defendants jointly accepted 90% liability for the Claimant's accident.

Mr X

Our client was cycling when the driver of a parked car opened the door
and knocked him off his bike. Our client suffered a major head injury
and had to give up work. There were complex issues regarding his
future earning capacity. He received £500,000 compensation.

'Recently, I acted for a client who was an experienced cyclist but who
was caused to fall from her bike after a bus brushed past her. The bus
did not knock her off her bike, but caused her to wobble and
ultimately lose her balance. She then fell into the road and a
motorcyclist ran over her arm, causing a nasty fracture to her elbow.'

'The bus company denied it was their fault because they said the bus
never actually made contact with my client. In addition, they blamed
the motorcyclist for running over her arm. The motorcyclist's insurers
blamed the bus driver because he was the one to cause my client to
lose her balance in the first place. In the end, the case went to
trial and the judge decided that the bus driver was 70% to blame, and
the motorcyclist was 30% to blame for driving too close behind my
client.'

'These days, very few cases go to trial but it is common for insurance
companies to deny liability for accidents in order to discourage
people from bringing claims. This is why you need a specialist
compensation claim solicitor who can pursue your claim for you and
ensure you obtain all the compensation that you are entitled to.'

Marion Hilder (solicitor)
Bolt Burdon Kemp, London
http://www.theroadaccidentlawyers.co.uk/cyclists.php

Not exact citations but they show the principles of contributory
negligence and opening car door to danger.

Sniper8052
From: google on
On Jul 10, 9:46 am, "Sniper8...(a)yahoo.co.uk" <Sniper8...(a)yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> On 10 Jul, 09:07, "goo...(a)woodall.me.uk" <goo...(a)woodall.me.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 9, 11:29 pm, Tom Crispin
>
> > <kije.rem...(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:00:08 +0000 (UTC), Tim Woodall
>
> > > <devn...(a)woodall.me.uk> wrote:
> > > >On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:28:49 +0100,
> > > > Tom Crispin <kije.rem...(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote:
> > > >> I have been offered £5,100 settlement
> > > >Is the funny amount to keep it out of the small claims track and
> > > >therefore have the potential for a costs award if their final offer is
> > > >better than the court awards?
>
> > > No idea. If £5,000 the limit for the small claims court? If so I
> > > will be seriously worried about the validity of their assessment.
>
> >http://www.sfla.co.uk/litigation/small-claims.htm
>
> > Tim.
>
> That advice is for all small claims, as I said earlier Personal Injury
> Small Claims is £1000
>
> The Small Claims limit for personal injury compensation cases is
> £1000. This level of personal injury compensation relates to minor
> injuries only and if your injury has / is likely to cause you more
> than a few weeks of pain you can instruct Thompsons to deal with your
> case on a cost free basis to yourself.
>
> http://www.thompsons.law.co.uk/other-services/small-claims-court-fact...
>
> Sniper8052

Just seen your earlier post. Very good! Unfortunately, when at home I
filter out all google groups posts (including my own :-) so I've only
just gone back and found it.

Tim.
From: Sniper8052 on
On 10 Jul, 10:03, "goo...(a)woodall.me.uk" <goo...(a)woodall.me.uk> wrote:
> On Jul 10, 9:46 am, "Sniper8...(a)yahoo.co.uk" <Sniper8...(a)yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 10 Jul, 09:07, "goo...(a)woodall.me.uk" <goo...(a)woodall.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 9, 11:29 pm, Tom Crispin
>
> > > <kije.rem...(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:00:08 +0000 (UTC), Tim Woodall
>
> > > > <devn...(a)woodall.me.uk> wrote:
> > > > >On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:28:49 +0100,
> > > > > Tom Crispin <kije.rem...(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote:
> > > > >> I have been offered £5,100 settlement
> > > > >Is the funny amount to keep it out of the small claims track and
> > > > >therefore have the potential for a costs award if their final offer is
> > > > >better than the court awards?
>
> > > > No idea. If £5,000 the limit for the small claims court? If so I
> > > > will be seriously worried about the validity of their assessment.
>
> > >http://www.sfla.co.uk/litigation/small-claims.htm
>
> > > Tim.
>
> > That advice is for all small claims, as I said earlier Personal Injury
> > Small Claims is £1000
>
> > The Small Claims limit for personal injury compensation cases is
> > £1000. This level of personal injury compensation relates to minor
> > injuries only and if your injury has / is likely to cause you more
> > than a few weeks of pain you can instruct Thompsons to deal with your
> > case on a cost free basis to yourself.
>
> >http://www.thompsons.law.co.uk/other-services/small-claims-court-fact...
>
> > Sniper8052
>
> Just seen your earlier post. Very good! Unfortunately, when at home I
> filter out all google groups posts (including my own :-) so I've only
> just gone back and found it.
>
> Tim.

Have just gone back and re-read that myself and I should correct the
ambiguity to read that in a normal claim for more than the small
claims limit you will have to pay the costs of the other side if you
win and are awarded a lesser amount than has already been offered.
The small claims route has no liability to the other side's costs as
far as I am aware.

Sniper8052
From: Alex Heney on
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:02:15 -0700 (PDT), "Sniper8052(a)yahoo.co.uk"
<Sniper8052(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On 9 Jul, 21:21, Alex Heney <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 02:58:14 -0700 (PDT), "Sniper8...(a)yahoo.co.uk"
>>
>>
<snip>

>> >> > The offence is opening a car door to danger. The danger exists
>> >> > whether or not the person approaching avoids the danger. If a driver,
>> >> > or passenger for whom the driver is responsible, causes a person to
>> >> > stop or swerve to avoid a collision that would have occurred had they
>> >> > not taken avoiding action in the face of immanent danger then the
>> >> > driver is still liable for the offence. If in taking avoiding action
>> >> > a collision occurs with another road user the driver of the first
>> >> > vehicle will still be liable.
>>
>> >> And you have a precedent for this, do you?
>>
<snip>

>
>Not exact citations but they show the principles of contributory
>negligence and opening car door to danger.

thank you.
--
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