From: boltar2003 on
On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:09:10 +0100
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Well mine has about 350 but thats beside the point. The noise of hitting
>> the
>> cone and the scraping sound would have been a giveaway if I hadn't seen it
>> already (cone knocked over by another vehicle in roadworks , going to fast
>> to
>> swerve , not an interesting tale).
>>
>What if you hadn't seen it and the collision was so gentle that there was no
>noise transmitted to you?

Then I wouldn't have heard the initial bang. But I'd still have heard the
scraping sound coming from under the car.

B2003

From: boltar2003 on
On Thu, 27 May 2010 09:52:27 +0100
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>Because CTM and others a) know best and b) want to slag off a lorry driver
>despite it being a car driver who caused the incident in the first place.

Yes the car driver was an idiot. But she made a momentary mistake. The lorry
drivers mistake went on for minutes. Its on a completely different scale
of idiocy.

B2003

From: GT on
<boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:09:10 +0100
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Well mine has about 350 but thats beside the point. The noise of hitting
>>> the
>>> cone and the scraping sound would have been a giveaway if I hadn't seen
>>> it
>>> already (cone knocked over by another vehicle in roadworks , going to
>>> fast
>>> to
>>> swerve , not an interesting tale).
>>>
>>What if you hadn't seen it and the collision was so gentle that there was
>>no
>>noise transmitted to you?
>
> Then I wouldn't have heard the initial bang. But I'd still have heard the
> scraping sound coming from under the car.

What - do you mean you could hear the scraping noise even if you are above
the source of the noise and can't see it. Don't forget that you are sitting
behind a pane of glass and have an engine running (diesel or v6/8 I would
guess for that torque)?


From: Man at B&Q on
On May 27, 10:24 am, boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote:
> On Thu, 27 May 2010 09:52:27 +0100
>
> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Because CTM and others a) know best and b) want to slag off a lorry driver
> >despite it being a car driver who caused the incident in the first place..
>
> Yes the car driver was an idiot. But she made a momentary mistake. The lorry
> drivers mistake went on for minutes.

What mistake was that then? Not having x-ray vision?

MBQ
From: GT on
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> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message
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>
>> Before you reply, please find a toy car and get down on the carpet...
>> Push the top car along on its wheels, in the direction it is meant to
>> travel. Now turn it sideways and see how much extra force is required to
>> move it - its not the mass that is the problem here, its the additional
>> and sudden increase in drag that is the problem.
>>
> Isn't there a slight difference in the resistance of a domestic carpet
> compared to a wet high speed road surface?

Of course there is a difference between a carpet and a we road, but only in
the same way as there is a difference between pushing a toy car by hand and
trying to drag a tonne of metal sideways.