From: Conor on 27 May 2010 06:22 On 27/05/2010 11:17, GT wrote: >> There was no sudden adding of weight. > > There was in your post - I was replying to you saying "...even 5 tonnes on > the back of an artic..." > I never mentioned a sudden adding of weight. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Conor on 27 May 2010 06:22 On 27/05/2010 11:18, GT wrote: > "Conor"<conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message > news:866u5aF87fU6(a)mid.individual.net... >> On 27/05/2010 09:53, GT wrote: >> >>>> To the side of it. Noise is always louder to the side. >>> >>> In whos world? >> >> Everyones. I've been in the Army. A rifle being fired sounds a shitload >> louder to the person to the side of it than the person firing it. > > That's simply not true. > And your first hand experience is? -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Brimstone on 27 May 2010 06:26 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4bfe3ed3$0$17490$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:e4ednah8UPUHqWPWnZ2dnUVZ7vmdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:4bfe324a$0$17484$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> >>> Before you reply, please find a toy car and get down on the carpet... >>> Push the top car along on its wheels, in the direction it is meant to >>> travel. Now turn it sideways and see how much extra force is required to >>> move it - its not the mass that is the problem here, its the additional >>> and sudden increase in drag that is the problem. >>> >> Isn't there a slight difference in the resistance of a domestic carpet >> compared to a wet high speed road surface? > > Of course there is a difference between a carpet and a we road, but only > in the same way as there is a difference between pushing a toy car by hand > and trying to drag a tonne of metal sideways. A tonne of metal flat on a surface would have a very different resistance to two tyres regardless of the surface.
From: GT on 27 May 2010 06:28 "Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message news:866v5rFh59U2(a)mid.individual.net... > On 27/05/2010 11:12, GT wrote: >> "Conor"<conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:866u7aF87fU7(a)mid.individual.net... >>> On 27/05/2010 10:02, boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: >>> >>>> Well mine has about 350 but thats beside the point. >>> >>> Wow, 1/6th... >> >> So 1/6th of the pulling/pushing power, so lets reduce the physics >> accordingly - the car only has to push 166Kg of frictional material >> along - >> I'm sure I would notice the reduced power if someone quietly, but >> suddenly >> added a small cow in front of my car, even if it were out of sight! >> >>>> The noise of hitting the >>>> cone and the scraping sound would have been a giveaway if I hadn't seen >>>> it >>>> already (cone knocked over by another vehicle in roadworks , going to >>>> fast to >>>> swerve , not an interesting tale). >>>> >>> You were in a car therefore your anecdote is irrelevant. >> >> Things getting stuck under cars are irrelevant? > > In regards to cones and hearing them, yes. A cone doesn't weigh anything near 166Kg, so if he could hear a cone scraping along the road, then it most definitely is relevant as he would have heard something many times larger and louder!
From: Brimstone on 27 May 2010 06:29
<boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message news:htldfr$6gk$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:09:10 +0100 > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> Well mine has about 350 but thats beside the point. The noise of hitting >>> the >>> cone and the scraping sound would have been a giveaway if I hadn't seen >>> it >>> already (cone knocked over by another vehicle in roadworks , going to >>> fast >>> to >>> swerve , not an interesting tale). >>> >>What if you hadn't seen it and the collision was so gentle that there was >>no >>noise transmitted to you? > > Then I wouldn't have heard the initial bang. But I'd still have heard the > scraping sound coming from under the car. > How do you know beyond all reasonable doubt that you would have heard it? |