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From: Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) on 20 May 2007 23:51 Eeyore wrote: > > "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote: > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > > > >You can pay more for 'private' care in the UK too if you want to. Either by >electing to > > have an additional insurance policy or by paying on an ad-hoc basis. >It's simply not > > compulsory and most ppl go with the normal provision most of the >time. > > > > I know that. > > Right so you have lots of choice. Problem ? > I don't have a problem with choice.
From: Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) on 21 May 2007 00:05 Jeffrey Turner wrote: > > Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote: > > > > > Jeffrey Turner wrote: > > > >>Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote: > >> > >>>Jeffrey Turner wrote: > >>> > >>>>Eeyore wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>Jeffrey Turner wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Losing your job to someone who'll work for half the wages *so* often > >>>>>>leads to prosperity. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Why stop at half the wages. China and India can do it for far far less. > >>>> > >>>>It just as clearly applies to Chinese workers eventually losing their > >>>>jobs to people in Burma or Nigeria thanks to "free trade." > >>> > >>>What's interesting, because that did happen already in Japan, is that > >>>eventually you run out of dirt poor people to shift the work to and then > >>>every group on the planet is suddenly better off. The people of Japan > >>>aren't in a state like the people of Nigeria even though the people of > >>>the worse world took their old jobs. > >> > >>But Japan never subjected itself to "free market" principles. > > > > Within Japan, you are correct the economy is pretty controlled. And > > you'll notice they've had serious problems. > > Not as serious as "free trade" countries like Mexico and Peru. > Argentina had so much "free market" they had to close the banks. > Argentina hardly had a free market since their money wasn't floating. -- "There are some gals who don't like to be pushed and grabbed and lassoed and drug into buses in the middle of the night." "How else was I gonna get her on the bus? Well, I'm askin' ya.", George Axelrod, "Bus Stop"
From: Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) on 21 May 2007 00:07 Eeyore wrote: > > "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote: > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote: > > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > > > "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Airbus is a subsidized company > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. It's a commercial company just like Boeing. > > > > > > > > Of course it is "commercial", it's also subsidized. > > > > > > It's not subsidised. If you're going to make that claim you'll have to provide > evidence of > > subsidy. > > > > You acknowledge below market loans from the government. > > I do. What's wrong with that. The government has an interest in high employment and increased > tax revenue wheras a bank doesn't. So the government can offer better terms. > > It's the market at work effectively. > Whether you agree or not with doing it, below market loans are a subsidy for Airbus.
From: Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) on 21 May 2007 00:10 Eeyore wrote: > > "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote: > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > > > > Are Boeing's pork-barrel military contracts a subsidy ? > > > > Boeing's military contracts are in its military aircraft division. > > Obfuscation. > > I'll take that as a "Yes, military contracts are a (hidden) subsidy". > Since they are different divisions and the commercial division has to make a profit on its own, you are wrong.
From: Fred G. Mackey on 21 May 2007 00:17
Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote: > > Eeyore wrote: > >>"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote: >> >> >>>Eeyore wrote: >>> >>>>The US system easily doubles or trebles the cost of equivalent care. >>> >>>Really? So it's no big deal to get an MRI in the UK? >> >>Well no AFAIK. I've never needed one Why would it be ? >> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3610753.stm > #begin quote > The government is to pay for new mobile MRI scanners in a bid to cut NHS > waiting times in England. > > The machines will be used to carry out an extra 80,000 scans a year, > boosting NHS capacity by 10%. > > MRI scans are used to diagnose a range of medical problems, including > cancer, heart disease and epilepsy. > > Health Secretary John Reid has invited bids from the private sector to > supply the new machines and staff to operate them from this summer. > > A report published in 2002 found over half a million people were waiting > in England and Wales for a MRI scan. > It's no wonder he's never "needed" one. With wait lists that long, doctors are probably very reluctant to use them except in extreme circumstances. |