From: Nick Finnigan on 8 Aug 2010 11:54
> Nick Finnigan wrote:
>> Derek C wrote:
>>> information about alternative routes, etc. If it was not a closed road
>>> event, then that was even worse, as competitors are expected to keep
>>> to the laws and rules of the road, and to comply with the highway
>> It probably was a (rolling) closed road event:
>> http://www.richmondgp.co.uk/downloads/RaceManual10.pdf 'Road Use'
> Civilians in private unmarked cars are not authorised to act as police
> officers for highway matters.
> Neither are they allowed to drive on the wrong side of the road, drive
> without due consideration for other road users or otherwise drive
> dangerously (you know, things like driving straight at other vehicles to
> force them off the road).
> You already know this.
I have written nothing relevant to that outburst. Have you read the link?
From: Ret. on 8 Aug 2010 11:54
Nick Finnigan wrote:
> Ret. wrote:
>> Cheshire police banned such events on Cheshire's roads many years
>> ago - because of this type of behaviour. No matter what the cyclists
>> were told prior to the race starting - they just ignored it once
>> they got going.
> Under what law ?
The organisers of such on-road events must obtain permission from the
police - who can refuse permission in the interests of road safety.
From: Nick Finnigan on 8 Aug 2010 12:25
> Nick Finnigan wrote:
>> Ret. wrote:
>>> Cheshire police banned such events on Cheshire's roads many years
>>> ago - because of this type of behaviour. No matter what the cyclists
>>> were told prior to the race starting - they just ignored it once
>>> they got going.
>> Under what law ?
> The organisers of such on-road events must obtain permission from the
> police - who can refuse permission in the interests of road safety.
They can impose conditions.
The Cheshire Classic Road Race is presumably an imaginary event?
From: Mortimer on 8 Aug 2010 13:03
"JNugent" <jenningsltd(a)fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> Mortimer wrote:
>> If they are going to run races on public roads, they need to abide by the
>> highway code, and keep the bikes on their own side of the road, not
>> blocking oncoming traffic, and preferably where there are only a few
>> bikes, keep the bikes no more than two abreast as the Highway Code
>> requires to allow other traffic to overtake.
> I'm astounded.
> That is (or was) absolutely outrageous.
> Who on Earth do they think they are?
> That driver (who seemed to have thought he was a marshall) was clearly
> guilty of dangerous driving. Tell me you complained to the police,
If I had had the foresight to take his car number, I probably would have
done. I imagine he was driving aggressively because he wanted to get to the
road junction before the cyclists got there, so he could block off the side
road that he and I approached from. But that doesn't excuse "out of my f-ing
way" gestures, headlamp flashing and aggressive driving.
Once he'd blocked the traffic, he nipped smartly ahead of the cyclists so I
didn't get a good view of him: my attention was taken by the cyclists who
were being preceded by a second marshall car on the wrong side of the road
and followed by a third one bringing up the rear. Behind that was a long
stream of cars, some with signs on which suggested that they were support
vehicles, others were private cars who were stuck behind the "procession".
It probably took about two minutes before there was a large enough gap for
me to pull out into the main road.
Once I was on the road, we went at about 30 mph apart from on the approach
to a couple of slight hills - on a road where the bends prevent you going
much faster than 40, so it was no great hardship.
I didn't see any police cars anywhere performing traffic control duties such
as stopping oncoming cars: everything was being done by the marshalls' black
cars with "Caution: Cyclists" roof signs and amber flashing lights.
If you were faced with an oncoming car on your side of the road, would you
swerve onto the verge or would you flash+hoot him and hold your position in
anticipation that he would belatedly move back over onto the correct side of
I admire those cyclists' fitness. I can keep up about 20 mph on the level
and I chicken out at about 35 mph going downhill because of the thought of
what would happen if I hit a patch of gravel or a pothole. These guys were
doing at least 30 and made it look dead easy.
From: Jim A on 8 Aug 2010 13:48
On 08/08/2010 06:03 PM, Mortimer wrote:
> I imagine he was driving aggressively because he wanted to
> get to the road junction before the cyclists got there, so he could
> block off the side road that he and I approached from.
Sounds like corking to me - it wasn't Doug was it?
www.slowbicyclemovement.org - enjoy the ride