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From: Mike Barnes on 7 Jul 2010 04:38 John <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com>: >Don't for one minute think that Auto Lights and Wiper is for your benefit. >It is a benefit for the manufacturers. A sensor connected to the car's >control system costs less - once developed - than a switch with its cosmetic >and rugged requirements and its wiring. My "auto lights" actually involves one *more* switch position. The "auto wipers" no fewer. I take your point about "once developed" but I think the manufacturers are a very long way from being able to dispense with manual control over lights and wipers. -- Mike Barnes
From: Man at B&Q on 7 Jul 2010 05:28 On Jul 6, 10:48 pm, "John" <Who90nos...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > "Adrian" <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:89gursF6n3U35(a)mid.individual.net... > > > > > "Mortimer" <m...(a)privacy.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > > saying: > > >>> I've never missed not having auto-wipers, but I've got variable speed > >>> intermittent, which does make a huge difference. > > >> How do you define the delay for variable-speed intermittent? > > > Depends. On some it's a separate control, either a rotary cuff on the > > stalk or a slider. On others, you flick intermittent on and off, pause, > > then back on. To change the delay, off and get a "mark" wipe, pause, then > > back on. > > >>> Even so, several of the fleet don't even have fixed-interval > >>> intermittent. <shrug> It's not the end of the world. You just install a > >>> simulation of the delay relay in wetware. > > >> You mean you press the flick-wipe control on the wiper stalk each time > >> you need the screen wiping? > > > Exactly that. > > Don't for one minute think that Auto Lights and Wiper is for your benefit.. > It is a benefit for the manufacturers. A sensor connected to the car's > control system costs less - once developed - than a switch with its cosmetic > and rugged requirements and its wiring. Rubbish! How many switches are removed when auto wipers or lights are fitted? Other "safety" features such as lane departure warning, reversing cameras, etc., cost money to fit. MBQ
From: Adrian on 7 Jul 2010 15:40 Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> How little attention does switching the wipers on require? > matching to the rain the way auto ones do would take quite a lot. Do you find it difficult not to stare, transfixed, at the wipers themselves as they go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth?
From: Adrian on 8 Jul 2010 02:17 Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>> How little attention does switching the wipers on require? >>> matching to the rain the way auto ones do would take quite a lot. >> Do you find it difficult not to stare, transfixed, at the wipers >> themselves as they go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth? > no, do you? I'm not the one who finds extending a digit distracting.
From: Dave Plowman on 8 Jul 2010 05:06
In article <K6WdnQNwC8RIta7RnZ2dnUVZ7rmdnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk>, Mortimer <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > My old Pug 306 had auto wipers. If I left the switch in the auto > position, it wouldn't operate the wipers if the screen was previously > dry and then it began to rain. However once it began to rain and I > flicked the switch into Off and then Auto, it would operate the wipers > intermittently (or even continuously) at a suitable rate to keep the > screen clear without wiping when the screen was dry. They're all like that. Prevents inadvertent operation in say a car wash. You have to reset them each time you switch on. -- *Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Dave Plowman dave(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12 |