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From: The Medway Handyman on 14 Dec 2009 12:55 Adrian wrote: > "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled > happily, sounding much like they were saying: > >>>> No, not really. They would have to pay a fee to cover the >>>> inconvenience of admin. > >>> Why does that apply to one form of zero-charge VED, yet not to >>> others? > >> Because zero rated cars still have number plates, so the pokice can >> check they have insurance & trace them when they break traffic laws. > > What's that got to do with the "inconvenience of admin" over issuing a > zero-charge VED? > >>> Or do you think that all zero-charge VED should pay an >>> "inconvenience of admin" fee? > >> No, they pay enough in VAT & fuel duty to cover it. > > Not necessarily. I've already pointed you to a for sale ad for a van > which will cost you zero in VED, VAT & fuel duty. Thank you Jeremy Clarkson. -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: The Medway Handyman on 14 Dec 2009 12:56 Adrian wrote: > "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled > happily, sounding much like they were saying: > >>>>> 'course, it would still need a valid tax disc on display. > >>>> Indeed it would. So if I drove through red traffic lights, on the >>>> pavement or the wrong way up a one way street I could be >>>> identified & prosecuted. > >>> Is it the presence or absence of a valid tax disc which enables >>> that, then? > >> No, its the fact that number plates are part of the system. > > So the tax disc is irrelevant, then. What bit of system confused you? -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: Adrian on 14 Dec 2009 12:59 "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>>>> 'course, it would still need a valid tax disc on display. >>>>> Indeed it would. So if I drove through red traffic lights, on the >>>>> pavement or the wrong way up a one way street I could be identified >>>>> & prosecuted. >>>> Is it the presence or absence of a valid tax disc which enables that, >>>> then? >>> No, its the fact that number plates are part of the system. >> So the tax disc is irrelevant, then. > What bit of system confused you? The bit where "tax disk" suddenly expanded into "system".
From: MasonS on 14 Dec 2009 12:59 On 14 Dec, 17:50, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Mas...(a)BP.com wrote: > > On 14 Dec, 13:41, Halmyre <flashgordonreced...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 12 Dec, 20:33, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > > >>> Halmyre wrote: > >>>>> Would it be OK if all of country's millions of bicycles, which > >>>>> would be in VED band A (Fee = £0), got a stamped round bit of > >>>>> paper from the Post Office and stuck it on their frames? Would > >>>>> that do it for you? > > >>>> Why would/should bicycles be in band A? (Answers of "because I'm a > >>>> cyclist and say so", accompanied by hysterics and foot-stamping, > >>>> are not acceptable). > > >>> Zero vehicle emmissions. VED is based on vehicle emmisions. And > >>> Zero is considerably less than required to be in band B > > >> You see the bold type at the top of this web page? > > >>http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehic.... > > >> "The cost of vehicle tax for cars, motorcycles, light goods vehicles > >> and trade licences" > > >> As far as I am aware, bicycles don't fall into any of those > >> categories. > > >> -- > >> Halmyre > > > "How to Tax Your Vehicle", eh? > > > Double the reason why they don't attract VED then. The Govt doesn't > > even class them as vehicles. Medway Highwayman *will* be upset. > > So, in your desperate attempt to avoid admitting you are a freeloader, you > are now trying to claim a push bike isn't a vehicle? > > -- > Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The powers that matter don't seem to. After you kindly put me straight about a cycle being a vehicle, I went onto the Govt site called "how to tax your vehicle" and lo and behold I can't tax it. I did *want* to pay, but the nasty Govt won't take my money. -- Simon Mason
From: Adrian on 14 Dec 2009 13:00
"MasonS(a)BP.com" <MasonS(a)BP.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > In any case, if you look at the appropriate website. > > http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehic... > > Cycles are not even classed as vehicles Personally, I'd have thought that'd be an omission you'd be trying to play down, not encourage... |