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From: Adrian on 3 Jun 2010 09:46 "GT" <a(a)b.c> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > the recommended speed for the road > recognised safe speed for the road And where would this piece of information be available from?
From: Tom Crispin on 3 Jun 2010 09:52 On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 14:37:03 +0100, "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote: >half the recommended speed for the road What is the 'recommended speed for the road'? I have heard of legal maximum speeds for roads, recommended maximum speeds, and even legal minimum speeds, but never a recommended speed.
From: Zimmy on 3 Jun 2010 09:33 "Tom Crispin" <kije.remove(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote in message news:s41f065j8se9mr0dr790fb2u3dq63ge4cj(a)4ax.com... > On Wednesday I cycled the route of the proposed cycle superhighway 5, > an excellent scheme to redistribute road space by taking a slither > from motorists and giving it to cyclists. > > I cycled the route with a senior engineer from Transport for London, > three road engineer consultants and a range of other interested > parties representing cycle groups. > > On the A2, at the New Cross Gyratory (which is scheduled for removal > to allow two-way traffic, slow traffic speeds, and make the area safer > for cyclists) there was a sunken drain cover causing a nasty pothole. > While we were discussing how road space could be reallocated to > cyclists within the constraints of two-way traffic flow, a truck > pulled up with two workmen. They jumped out of the cab, each carrying > a tub of "ULTRA permanent pothole repair". They proceeded to fill the > pothole and instruct lorry and bus drivers to driver over it to > compact it. Two minutes later and they were done. Two minutes to fill > a pothole!? Why is there such a pothole problem? Because it doesn't do what it says on the tin. It's not permanent, the holes will likely be back next time it is frosty. What they really need to do is sort out the drainage, everywhere that puddles regularly lie, freeze, and traffic drives over usually ends up as a pothole. Z
From: bod on 3 Jun 2010 10:09 Zimmy wrote: > > "Tom Crispin" <kije.remove(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote in message > news:s41f065j8se9mr0dr790fb2u3dq63ge4cj(a)4ax.com... >> On Wednesday I cycled the route of the proposed cycle superhighway 5, >> an excellent scheme to redistribute road space by taking a slither >> from motorists and giving it to cyclists. >> >> I cycled the route with a senior engineer from Transport for London, >> three road engineer consultants and a range of other interested >> parties representing cycle groups. >> >> On the A2, at the New Cross Gyratory (which is scheduled for removal >> to allow two-way traffic, slow traffic speeds, and make the area safer >> for cyclists) there was a sunken drain cover causing a nasty pothole. >> While we were discussing how road space could be reallocated to >> cyclists within the constraints of two-way traffic flow, a truck >> pulled up with two workmen. They jumped out of the cab, each carrying >> a tub of "ULTRA permanent pothole repair". They proceeded to fill the >> pothole and instruct lorry and bus drivers to driver over it to >> compact it. Two minutes later and they were done. Two minutes to fill >> a pothole!? Why is there such a pothole problem? > > Because it doesn't do what it says on the tin. It's not permanent, the > holes will likely be back next time it is frosty. What they really need > to do is sort out the drainage, everywhere that puddles regularly lie, > freeze, and traffic drives over usually ends up as a pothole. > > Z The main problem is water getting into cracks in a road, not puddles per se, IMO. Bod
From: bod on 3 Jun 2010 10:11
bod wrote: > Zimmy wrote: >> >> "Tom Crispin" <kije.remove(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote in message >> news:s41f065j8se9mr0dr790fb2u3dq63ge4cj(a)4ax.com... >>> On Wednesday I cycled the route of the proposed cycle superhighway 5, >>> an excellent scheme to redistribute road space by taking a slither >>> from motorists and giving it to cyclists. >>> >>> I cycled the route with a senior engineer from Transport for London, >>> three road engineer consultants and a range of other interested >>> parties representing cycle groups. >>> >>> On the A2, at the New Cross Gyratory (which is scheduled for removal >>> to allow two-way traffic, slow traffic speeds, and make the area safer >>> for cyclists) there was a sunken drain cover causing a nasty pothole. >>> While we were discussing how road space could be reallocated to >>> cyclists within the constraints of two-way traffic flow, a truck >>> pulled up with two workmen. They jumped out of the cab, each carrying >>> a tub of "ULTRA permanent pothole repair". They proceeded to fill the >>> pothole and instruct lorry and bus drivers to driver over it to >>> compact it. Two minutes later and they were done. Two minutes to fill >>> a pothole!? Why is there such a pothole problem? >> >> Because it doesn't do what it says on the tin. It's not permanent, the >> holes will likely be back next time it is frosty. What they really >> need to do is sort out the drainage, everywhere that puddles regularly >> lie, freeze, and traffic drives over usually ends up as a pothole. >> >> Z > Addition to my last post: > The main problem is water getting into cracks in a road and 'freezing', not puddles > per se, IMO. > > Bod |