From: Dave Plowman (News) on
In article <xn0gx7vfa1mbaxq000(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
steve robinson <steve(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote:
> The problem with no gas mig welding is the weld cuts deeper so it
> struggles on some of the tissue paper we now call car bodies and
> blows through

I can do that perfectly well with a gas one. ;-)

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From: T i m on
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:18:13 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave(a)davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <ujh3561dngvr4lfnjfuqv2va02rl7nonar(a)4ax.com>,
> T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>> >> Was there noticeably more
>> >> spatter? Did you test a weld and did it seem as strong as with gas?
>> >
>> >More yes, but acceptable for what I needed it for.
>
>> And you can use anti-spatter spray to at least stop some of it
>> sticking as much (apparently).
>
>I'm confused about this. If it stops spatter won't it effect the weld? Or
>do you mask off an area before using? I've only used it on the nozzle and
>found it very effective.


I'm not sure but I guess the actual weld would burn it off whereas
casual spatter near the weld may not do so so easily?

I'm sure someone will be along to tell us. ;-)

Cheers, T i m
From: Harry Bloomfield on
T i m brought next idea :
> It's mainly 3-5mm section steel (angle / box / plate)
> so I guess either would be ok (MIG probably 'easier')?

I would be using a stick welder on that. I only use MIG, where the
stick would be just too aggressive and burn through the steel.

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From: T i m on
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:10:13 +0100, Harry Bloomfield
<harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>T i m brought next idea :
>> It's mainly 3-5mm section steel (angle / box / plate)
>> so I guess either would be ok (MIG probably 'easier')?
>
>I would be using a stick welder on that. I only use MIG, where the
>stick would be just too aggressive and burn through the steel.


Ok, thanks, time for some practice then. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

p.s. The half tonne braked trailer I built with the same stick welder
over 30 years ago and has evolved a couple of times along the way is
still going strong. ;-)
From: Rob on
On 30/07/2010 6:10 AM, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
> T i m brought next idea :
>> It's mainly 3-5mm section steel (angle / box / plate)
>> so I guess either would be ok (MIG probably 'easier')?
>
> I would be using a stick welder on that. I only use MIG, where the stick
> would be just too aggressive and burn through the steel.
>

Gee I haven't used a stick welder for years now, the Mig is so much
cleaner to weld with. Continuous wire feed, no stopping (provided you
have a good duty cycle) no chipping slag, no more inclusions in the
welds, less heat-less distortion, the flash is more shielded better on
the eyes.

Will never go back to using a stick.

Just buy a decent MIG and use the correct gas for the material. I have a
180amp welder using Argoshield Universal and 0.8 wire.

r