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From: Chris Slade on 16 Aug 2006 18:07 <newsgroups trimmed slightly :-)> Alex Heney wrote: > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:23:20 +0100, "DieSea" > <DieSea.NoSpamPlease(a)ntlworldd.ccom> wrote: > >>Anyway he was clearly exceeding the speed limit with a trailer by a good >>10 MPH > > So what? > > That is totally and utterly irrelevant. > > Whether he was breaking the law or not has NO relevance to the fact > that you were breaking the law by driving inconsiderately. So you think it should be compulsory for all drivers to facilitate the lawbreaking antics of other drivers? Do you give consideration to everyone who wants to break the law by getting out of their way? -- Chris
From: Ivor Jones on 16 Aug 2006 18:45 "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:1547e2plrvffevcot7206nuqgagm5euhbr(a)4ax.com > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:33:54 +0100, "Simon Finnigan" > <SimonFinnigan(a)hotmail.com> wrote: [snip] > > You obviously know idiots. I do not, have not and will > > not use my mobile when driving. Hands free kits are > > IMHO an appalling idea - they do not remove the > > distraction of trying to hear a poor quality call with > > drop out (which is according to a few studies the main > > reason mobile phones distract drivers, not the actual > > conversation). > > I can honestly say I have *never* experienced that. Nor me. > I do use my mobile when driving, but *only* with a hands > free kit, and only for short calls. I have never once had > a call drop, nor any difficulty in hearing the other > person while driving. Same here. As I am on permanent call from work, I need to be contactable 24/7, very often by police, so switching off is not an option. Ivor
From: spam-spam-spam on 16 Aug 2006 20:49 In article <u-udnQyogtIMy37ZRVnyhw(a)bt.com> Brimstone <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > DieSea wrote: > > > It wasn't empty , there were HGV's which I was overtaking > > So how could he pass you in the nearside lane? > > By using excessive speed, not leaving safe stopping distances ...
From: Paul {Hamilton Rooney} on 17 Aug 2006 02:27 On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:41:20 GMT, JAF <anarchSPAMKILLER(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:33:17 +0100, Alex Heney <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >>On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 04:47:20 GMT, JAF <anarchSPAMKILLER(a)ntlworld.com> >>wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:23:45 +0100, "DieSea" >>><DieSea.NoSpamPlease(a)ntlworldd.ccom> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Then he tied to over take me on the inside lane >>>> >>>How pleased I am to see someone say 'overtake on the inside', rather than >>>the utterly, utterly *wrong* usage of 'undertake'. >>> >> >>Any concept of an idea as to why you think it is "wrong"? >> >>It has become accepted usage. That is how languages evolve. > >So? Usage is king. There's no other criterion of right and wrong where language is concerned. How could there be? -- Paul Rooney "Rooney is one of these vandals and has done his utmost to help trash dl and the other groups which he regularly crossposts to. He's created a false FAQ and charter" (Chris Lawrence in uk.rec.walking) "Also long time d.l. reader but never feel robust enough to post much, especially since Rooney wrecked the group." (Rachel Sullivan in uk.rec.walking) "Low life scum doesn't even begin to describe you. You are the most loathsome individual ever to cross the threshold of d.l." (JK in demon.local)
From: Simon Finnigan on 17 Aug 2006 02:44
Alex Heney wrote: > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:33:54 +0100, "Simon Finnigan" > <SimonFinnigan(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> uknewsfan wrote: >>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:06:45 GMT, "burt" >>> <burtthebike(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> I have yet to meet anyone who has stopped using their mobile whilst >>> driving. I imagine the majority here do too, if they are honest. >> >> You obviously know idiots. I do not, have not and will not use my >> mobile when driving. Hands free kits are IMHO an appalling idea - >> they do not remove the distraction of trying to hear a poor quality >> call with drop out (which is according to a few studies the main >> reason mobile phones distract drivers, not the actual conversation). > > I can honestly say I have *never* experienced that. > > I do use my mobile when driving, but *only* with a hands free kit, and > only for short calls. I have never once had a call drop, nor any > difficulty in hearing the other person while driving. You haven`t noticed it conciously, but it does happen. It`s tiny little fractions of a second, milliseconds - nothing more. but throw a few 2-3 millisecond gaps per second into audio, and your brain has to work a LOT harder to work out what has been said. And since there is only so much brain to go round, then whatever else you`re doing at the time has to suffer. Nobody would tollerate noticible drop-out regularly, but the tiny silences that you get now aren`t noticible by your concious brain, hence the problem. I think the study was reported in New Scientist, among other places. IIRC the study was only done on a a normal mobile phone - throw a second radio link into the equation (the bluetooth hands free kit) and I`d guess the problem would become even worse. I`d be interested to see some stats about accidents with hands-free kits in use at the time. I`m sure that a honest study would prove a correlation between the use of a handsfree kit and an increased risk of an RTC. How big a link i`m not sure, but i`d guess it`d be fairly significant. I`d be intrigued to know if it approaches (or even increases) the added risk of using a mobile phone without a hands free kit. |