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From: DavidR on
"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> "DavidR" <curedham(a)4bidden.org.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:
>
>> My first car was made in 1969, weighed 1000kg and had a 1500 engine with
>> 95bhp. Things haven't moved on very much (apart from fuel consumption).
>
> There's not many 95bhp cars as light as 1000kg these days.

....there aren't many cars as light as 1000kg. Which probably means the
majority of cars sold still come under the 80bhp/t mark.


From: Nick Finnigan on
Mr Benn wrote:
> "Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:hlelkr$tqe$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> Mr Benn wrote:
>>> Why are so many drivers getting this wrong? The broken line separating
>>> the slip road from lane 1 means "give way".
>> It doesn't, it is not a give-way line, and the HC reads:
>>
>> 259
>> Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally
>> approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining
>> motorway. You should
>>
>> give priority to traffic already on the motorway
>
> So what do you think "give way" means? Give way to traffic on the other

Do not cause drivers on the other side of the line to change speed or
direction.

> side of the line. i.e. traffic on the other side of the line has priority.

No, you can go before them, provided they don't have to change speed or
direction.
From: Mortimer on
"Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hlhtr9$tpo$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> So what do you think "give way" means? Give way to traffic on the other
>
> Do not cause drivers on the other side of the line to change speed or
> direction.
>
>> side of the line. i.e. traffic on the other side of the line has
>> priority.
>
> No, you can go before them, provided they don't have to change speed or
> direction.

Yes, but that's only the equivalent of saying that you can pull out from a
side road in front of a car on the major road, as long as you leave
sufficient gap between you and the car that is now behind you and you
accelerate up to or beyond his speed so you don't make him change speed or
direction.

On a motorway, if you see a car doing 60 in Lane 1, there's nothing to stop
you driving down the slip road at 70, overtaking him on the left before you
join Lane 1, and going ahead of him.

If a car that is in Lane 1 *chooses* to change direction, by changing lane,
so as to create a bigger gap for you to move into, that's fine: it was his
decision to be kind to you and you haven't *made* him do it. If on the other
hand you drive down the slip road, end up dead level with him and then barge
into the lane as if he wasn't there, making him brake hard or take evasive
action by escaping into Lane 2 to avoid a collision, that's a very different
story!

From: Mr Benn on

"Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hlhtr9$tpo$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Mr Benn wrote:
>> "Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:hlelkr$tqe$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Mr Benn wrote:
>>>> Why are so many drivers getting this wrong? The broken line separating
>>>> the slip road from lane 1 means "give way".
>>> It doesn't, it is not a give-way line, and the HC reads:
>>>
>>> 259
>>> Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally
>>> approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining
>>> motorway. You should
>>>
>>> give priority to traffic already on the motorway
>>
>> So what do you think "give way" means? Give way to traffic on the other
>
> Do not cause drivers on the other side of the line to change speed or
> direction.
>
>> side of the line. i.e. traffic on the other side of the line has
>> priority.
>
> No, you can go before them, provided they don't have to change speed or
> direction.

I think you're just mincing words. We both mean the same thing.


From: DavidR on
"Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote
>
> Lotus Cortinas, Austin 1100's, original Mini's, Ventura's, A40's, E-types
> and etc.. Some of those seemed to be scarily powerful in their day.

It must have been the go-faster apostrophes.
A friend had an Austin 1100. We thought the brakes were rubbish until an MoT
man complemented him on how good they were for that model. That was scary.


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