From: Ekul Namsob on
Peter Clinch <p.j.clinch(a)dundee.ac.uk> wrote:

> Ekul Namsob wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the clarification. However, the advice to keep clear of
> > lorries is not, in my opinion, a waste of space. It is advice and, as
> > such, it is beneficial to follow that advice when practical.
>
> It is ambiguous. Run "Keep clear of" past the Campaign for Plain
> English and see if anyone there reckons it can possibly be taken as
> meaning "get out of the way". Now see how "get out of the way" compares
> with taking up the primary position very deliberately in the path of an
> approaching HGV.
>
> > Rightly or wrongly, I inferred from the advice that one should /attempt/
> > to keep clear of lorries.
>
> But that remains bad advice, for the reason given above. With a lorry
> approaching from behind it is often in my interests to assertively *get
> right in its path*, reasonably safe in the knowledge that the driver
> will give me the space I need. That is not at all clear from "attempt
> to keep clear of lorries", is it?

In that circumstance it would almost certainly not be practical to keep
out of the way of the lorry.

Cheers,
Luke



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From: Brimstone on
raisethe wrote:
> x-no-archive:Steve Firth wrote:
>> raisethe <raisethe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Are you two their resident trolls?
>>
>> Oh, the irony.
> Meaning?

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=42023&dict=CALD

irony (FIGURATIVE SPEECH)
noun [U]
a means of expression which suggests a different, usually humorous or angry,
meaning for the words used:
Her voice heavy with irony, Simone said, "We're so pleased you were able to
stay so long." (= Her voice made it obvious they were not pleased).


From: NM on
Brimstone wrote:
> raisethe wrote:
>> x-no-archive:Steve Firth wrote:
>>> raisethe <raisethe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you two their resident trolls?
>>> Oh, the irony.
>> Meaning?
>
> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=42023&dict=CALD
>
> irony (FIGURATIVE SPEECH)
> noun [U]
> a means of expression which suggests a different, usually humorous or angry,
> meaning for the words used:
> Her voice heavy with irony, Simone said, "We're so pleased you were able to
> stay so long." (= Her voice made it obvious they were not pleased).
>
>

AaH! Here we have Brimstone trying to lead you towards the 'Fountain of
Knowledge', an activity he denies to lorry drivers, you are truly
honoured, drink deeply.
From: Brimstone on
NM wrote:
> Brimstone wrote:
>> raisethe wrote:
>>> x-no-archive:Steve Firth wrote:
>>>> raisethe <raisethe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you two their resident trolls?
>>>> Oh, the irony.
>>> Meaning?
>>
>> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=42023&dict=CALD
>>
>> irony (FIGURATIVE SPEECH)
>> noun [U]
>> a means of expression which suggests a different, usually humorous
>> or angry, meaning for the words used:
>> Her voice heavy with irony, Simone said, "We're so pleased you were
>> able to stay so long." (= Her voice made it obvious they were not
>> pleased).
>
> AaH! Here we have Brimstone trying to lead you towards the 'Fountain
> of Knowledge', an activity he denies to lorry drivers, you are truly
> honoured, drink deeply.

Wrong again.


From: NM on
Brimstone wrote:
> NM wrote:
>> Brimstone wrote:
>>> raisethe wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive:Steve Firth wrote:
>>>>> raisethe <raisethe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you two their resident trolls?
>>>>> Oh, the irony.
>>>> Meaning?
>>> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=42023&dict=CALD
>>>
>>> irony (FIGURATIVE SPEECH)
>>> noun [U]
>>> a means of expression which suggests a different, usually humorous
>>> or angry, meaning for the words used:
>>> Her voice heavy with irony, Simone said, "We're so pleased you were
>>> able to stay so long." (= Her voice made it obvious they were not
>>> pleased).
>> AaH! Here we have Brimstone trying to lead you towards the 'Fountain
>> of Knowledge', an activity he denies to lorry drivers, you are truly
>> honoured, drink deeply.
>
> Wrong again.
>
>
How? I spy you divulging information to a third party for the purposes
of educating them, an activity you deny truck drivers.