From: Ekul Namsob on 21 Dec 2007 09:57 Peter Clinch <p.j.clinch(a)dundee.ac.uk> wrote: > Ekul Namsob wrote: > > > Thanks for the clarification. However, the advice to keep clear of > > lorries is not, in my opinion, a waste of space. It is advice and, as > > such, it is beneficial to follow that advice when practical. > > It is ambiguous. Run "Keep clear of" past the Campaign for Plain > English and see if anyone there reckons it can possibly be taken as > meaning "get out of the way". Now see how "get out of the way" compares > with taking up the primary position very deliberately in the path of an > approaching HGV. > > > Rightly or wrongly, I inferred from the advice that one should /attempt/ > > to keep clear of lorries. > > But that remains bad advice, for the reason given above. With a lorry > approaching from behind it is often in my interests to assertively *get > right in its path*, reasonably safe in the knowledge that the driver > will give me the space I need. That is not at all clear from "attempt > to keep clear of lorries", is it? In that circumstance it would almost certainly not be practical to keep out of the way of the lorry. Cheers, Luke -- Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>
From: Brimstone on 21 Dec 2007 10:16 raisethe wrote: > x-no-archive:Steve Firth wrote: >> raisethe <raisethe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Are you two their resident trolls? >> >> Oh, the irony. > Meaning? http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=42023&dict=CALD irony (FIGURATIVE SPEECH) noun [U] a means of expression which suggests a different, usually humorous or angry, meaning for the words used: Her voice heavy with irony, Simone said, "We're so pleased you were able to stay so long." (= Her voice made it obvious they were not pleased).
From: NM on 21 Dec 2007 10:46 Brimstone wrote: > raisethe wrote: >> x-no-archive:Steve Firth wrote: >>> raisethe <raisethe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Are you two their resident trolls? >>> Oh, the irony. >> Meaning? > > http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=42023&dict=CALD > > irony (FIGURATIVE SPEECH) > noun [U] > a means of expression which suggests a different, usually humorous or angry, > meaning for the words used: > Her voice heavy with irony, Simone said, "We're so pleased you were able to > stay so long." (= Her voice made it obvious they were not pleased). > > AaH! Here we have Brimstone trying to lead you towards the 'Fountain of Knowledge', an activity he denies to lorry drivers, you are truly honoured, drink deeply.
From: Brimstone on 21 Dec 2007 11:26 NM wrote: > Brimstone wrote: >> raisethe wrote: >>> x-no-archive:Steve Firth wrote: >>>> raisethe <raisethe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Are you two their resident trolls? >>>> Oh, the irony. >>> Meaning? >> >> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=42023&dict=CALD >> >> irony (FIGURATIVE SPEECH) >> noun [U] >> a means of expression which suggests a different, usually humorous >> or angry, meaning for the words used: >> Her voice heavy with irony, Simone said, "We're so pleased you were >> able to stay so long." (= Her voice made it obvious they were not >> pleased). > > AaH! Here we have Brimstone trying to lead you towards the 'Fountain > of Knowledge', an activity he denies to lorry drivers, you are truly > honoured, drink deeply. Wrong again.
From: NM on 21 Dec 2007 11:34
Brimstone wrote: > NM wrote: >> Brimstone wrote: >>> raisethe wrote: >>>> x-no-archive:Steve Firth wrote: >>>>> raisethe <raisethe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Are you two their resident trolls? >>>>> Oh, the irony. >>>> Meaning? >>> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=42023&dict=CALD >>> >>> irony (FIGURATIVE SPEECH) >>> noun [U] >>> a means of expression which suggests a different, usually humorous >>> or angry, meaning for the words used: >>> Her voice heavy with irony, Simone said, "We're so pleased you were >>> able to stay so long." (= Her voice made it obvious they were not >>> pleased). >> AaH! Here we have Brimstone trying to lead you towards the 'Fountain >> of Knowledge', an activity he denies to lorry drivers, you are truly >> honoured, drink deeply. > > Wrong again. > > How? I spy you divulging information to a third party for the purposes of educating them, an activity you deny truck drivers. |