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From: Brimstone on 28 Dec 2007 09:34 spindrift wrote: > On 28 Dec, 14:04, Jeff York <ra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > "Speed cameras don't have any relevance to bicycles " > > If you cycled, you'd know that speeding traffic is extremely relevant > to cyclists. > > A young woman who drove her Smart car through a red light at speed, > hitting and killing a cyclist, has been jailed for 21 months. > > Sobbing Kerry Smith, 24, who had no previous convictions and a clean > driving licence, drove west along Talgarth Road at 45mph in the 30mph > limit and failed to stop at the red light on the junction with Gliddon > Road, prosecutor Charles Burton told Isleworth Crown Court. > > "It was 9pm and the defendant failed to notice the lights were red and > collided with cyclist Charlotte Morse, who was riding her bicycle from > north to south across the junction with the lights at green in her > favour," he said. > > http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/mostpopular.var.1822947.mostviewed.speeding_driver_jailed_for_killing_young_cyclist.php > What has someone driving through a red light got to do with "speeding"?
From: spindrift on 28 Dec 2007 09:51 On 28 Dec, 14:34, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > spindrift wrote: > > On 28 Dec, 14:04, Jeff York <ra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > > "Speed cameras don't have any relevance to bicycles " > > > If you cycled, you'd know that speeding traffic is extremely relevant > > to cyclists. > > > A young woman who drove her Smart car through a red light at speed, > > hitting and killing a cyclist, has been jailed for 21 months. > > > Sobbing Kerry Smith, 24, who had no previous convictions and a clean > > driving licence, drove west along Talgarth Road at 45mph in the 30mph > > limit and failed to stop at the red light on the junction with Gliddon > > Road, prosecutor Charles Burton told Isleworth Crown Court. > > > "It was 9pm and the defendant failed to notice the lights were red and > > collided with cyclist Charlotte Morse, who was riding her bicycle from > > north to south across the junction with the lights at green in her > > favour," he said. > > >http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/mostpopular.var.1822947.m... > > What has someone driving through a red light got to do with "speeding"?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Read the article, the driver claimed the light was green. here's a stunning fact that'll rock your world- speeding in vehicles means the vehicles take a longer time and a longer distance to stop. Disagree? Refute the "speed kills" truism? Allow me to educate you, I'll driver into you at 20mph, 30mph and 40mph. If you survive and remain cogent and sensate you can indicate by daubing your finger in your blood which hurt more. Or you can grow up, get out of bed earlier and drive under the limit.
From: Brimstone on 28 Dec 2007 10:00 spindrift wrote: > On 28 Dec, 14:34, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> spindrift wrote: >>> On 28 Dec, 14:04, Jeff York <ra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>> "Speed cameras don't have any relevance to bicycles " >> >>> If you cycled, you'd know that speeding traffic is extremely >>> relevant to cyclists. >> >>> A young woman who drove her Smart car through a red light at speed, >>> hitting and killing a cyclist, has been jailed for 21 months. >> >>> Sobbing Kerry Smith, 24, who had no previous convictions and a clean >>> driving licence, drove west along Talgarth Road at 45mph in the >>> 30mph limit and failed to stop at the red light on the junction >>> with Gliddon Road, prosecutor Charles Burton told Isleworth Crown >>> Court. >> >>> "It was 9pm and the defendant failed to notice the lights were red >>> and collided with cyclist Charlotte Morse, who was riding her >>> bicycle from north to south across the junction with the lights at >>> green in her favour," he said. >> >>> http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/mostpopular.var.1822947.m... >> >> What has someone driving through a red light got to do with >> "speeding"?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Read the article, the driver claimed the light was green. A working link would be useful. So reading as much of the article as you've posted she made no such claim but I'll accept that she misread the lights. How is speed relevant?
From: spindrift on 28 Dec 2007 10:04 On 28 Dec, 15:00, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > spindrift wrote: > > On 28 Dec, 14:34, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> spindrift wrote: > >>> On 28 Dec, 14:04, Jeff York <ra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >>> "Speed cameras don't have any relevance to bicycles " > > >>> If you cycled, you'd know that speeding traffic is extremely > >>> relevant to cyclists. > > >>> A young woman who drove her Smart car through a red light at speed, > >>> hitting and killing a cyclist, has been jailed for 21 months. > > >>> Sobbing Kerry Smith, 24, who had no previous convictions and a clean > >>> driving licence, drove west along Talgarth Road at 45mph in the > >>> 30mph limit and failed to stop at the red light on the junction > >>> with Gliddon Road, prosecutor Charles Burton told Isleworth Crown > >>> Court. > > >>> "It was 9pm and the defendant failed to notice the lights were red > >>> and collided with cyclist Charlotte Morse, who was riding her > >>> bicycle from north to south across the junction with the lights at > >>> green in her favour," he said. > > >>>http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/mostpopular.var.1822947.m... > > >> What has someone driving through a red light got to do with > >> "speeding"?- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Read the article, the driver claimed the light was green. > > A working link would be useful. > > So reading as much of the article as you've posted she made no such claim > but I'll accept that she misread the lights. How is speed relevant?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Accept my invitation to drive into you at various speeds and you'll be disabused of your wild contention that the speed of the vehicle has no bearing on the injuries inflicted on the speeder's victim.
From: Brimstone on 28 Dec 2007 10:08
spindrift wrote: > On 28 Dec, 15:00, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> spindrift wrote: >>> On 28 Dec, 14:34, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> spindrift wrote: >>>>> On 28 Dec, 14:04, Jeff York <ra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>>>> "Speed cameras don't have any relevance to bicycles " >> >>>>> If you cycled, you'd know that speeding traffic is extremely >>>>> relevant to cyclists. >> >>>>> A young woman who drove her Smart car through a red light at >>>>> speed, hitting and killing a cyclist, has been jailed for 21 >>>>> months. >> >>>>> Sobbing Kerry Smith, 24, who had no previous convictions and a >>>>> clean driving licence, drove west along Talgarth Road at 45mph in >>>>> the 30mph limit and failed to stop at the red light on the >>>>> junction with Gliddon Road, prosecutor Charles Burton told >>>>> Isleworth Crown Court. >> >>>>> "It was 9pm and the defendant failed to notice the lights were red >>>>> and collided with cyclist Charlotte Morse, who was riding her >>>>> bicycle from north to south across the junction with the lights at >>>>> green in her favour," he said. >> >>>>> http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/mostpopular.var.1822947.m... >> >>>> What has someone driving through a red light got to do with >>>> "speeding"?- Hide quoted text - >> >>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>> Read the article, the driver claimed the light was green. >> >> A working link would be useful. >> >> So reading as much of the article as you've posted she made no such >> claim >> but I'll accept that she misread the lights. How is speed relevant?- >> Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Accept my invitation to drive into you at various speeds and you'll be > disabused of your wild contention that the speed of the vehicle has no > bearing on the injuries inflicted on the speeder's victim. If she had complied with the red light there would have been no collision and no injuries and death. How is speed relevant to passing a red light? (Third time of asking.) |