From: JNugent on
AlanG wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 01:20:16 +0100, JNugent
> <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>
>> Ian wrote:
>>> "ARWadsworth" <adamwadsworth(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:GInun.194343$ti6.82338(a)newsfe24.ams2...
>>>> "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:81ue48Fu7gU7(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>>> Simon Dean <sjdean(a)home.cubeone.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
>>>>> much like
>>>>> they were saying:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If that's true, that's quite disgraceful. They could easily be
>>>>>> sold on
>>>>>> to someone with a really really bad car, or perhaps given to some
>>>>>> charities or something, even auctioned off. But stripped and
>>>>>> crushed?
>>>>> That was kinda the whole _point_ of the scrappage scheme...
>>>> These green ideas eh?
>>>>
>>>> Next there will be subsidies for new boilers and solar
>>>> power...........oh dear
>>>>
>>> Boiler Scrappage scheme just ended. We got one of the last payouts..
>>> �400.
>>>
>>> Ta.
>> Still waiting for my �400.
>>
>> The new boiler is great.
>
> Wait until it breaks down.
>
> I've tried to find a report on this I read last year. It recommended
> keeping an older boiler if it was in good condition because newer
> boilers, while more efficient, are more likely to break down. Some
> have needed complete replacement after as little as 5 years.

The new one is an A1 blue-chip brand, with a five-year guarantee with
servicing included in the price. I was able to cancel the BT c/h maintenance
contract - �23.84 a month - that's �1430 saved over five years. Add the �400
scrappage, and the new boiler costs us about �400...
From: AlanG on
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:42:02 +0100, JNugent
<JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:

>AlanG wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 01:20:16 +0100, JNugent
>> <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ian wrote:
>>>> "ARWadsworth" <adamwadsworth(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:GInun.194343$ti6.82338(a)newsfe24.ams2...
>>>>> "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:81ue48Fu7gU7(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> Simon Dean <sjdean(a)home.cubeone.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
>>>>>> much like
>>>>>> they were saying:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If that's true, that's quite disgraceful. They could easily be
>>>>>>> sold on
>>>>>>> to someone with a really really bad car, or perhaps given to some
>>>>>>> charities or something, even auctioned off. But stripped and
>>>>>>> crushed?
>>>>>> That was kinda the whole _point_ of the scrappage scheme...
>>>>> These green ideas eh?
>>>>>
>>>>> Next there will be subsidies for new boilers and solar
>>>>> power...........oh dear
>>>>>
>>>> Boiler Scrappage scheme just ended. We got one of the last payouts..
>>>> �400.
>>>>
>>>> Ta.
>>> Still waiting for my �400.
>>>
>>> The new boiler is great.
>>
>> Wait until it breaks down.
>>
>> I've tried to find a report on this I read last year. It recommended
>> keeping an older boiler if it was in good condition because newer
>> boilers, while more efficient, are more likely to break down. Some
>> have needed complete replacement after as little as 5 years.
>
>The new one is an A1 blue-chip brand, with a five-year guarantee with
>servicing included in the price. I was able to cancel the BT c/h maintenance
>contract - �23.84 a month - that's �1430 saved over five years. Add the �400
>scrappage, and the new boiler costs us about �400...


Whereas I have an older boiler that didn't qualify for scrappage but
cost us 350 for repairs over 12 years. And I wouldn't bother with a
maintenance contract.
From: ARWadsworth on

"JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message
news:m4-dnYxV5oXGilHWnZ2dnUVZ7qadnZ2d(a)pipex.net...
> AlanG wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 01:20:16 +0100, JNugent
>> <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ian wrote:
>>>> "ARWadsworth" <adamwadsworth(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:GInun.194343$ti6.82338(a)newsfe24.ams2...
>>>>> "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:81ue48Fu7gU7(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> Simon Dean <sjdean(a)home.cubeone.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> they were saying:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If that's true, that's quite disgraceful. They could easily be sold
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> to someone with a really really bad car, or perhaps given to some
>>>>>>> charities or something, even auctioned off. But stripped and
>>>>>>> crushed?
>>>>>> That was kinda the whole _point_ of the scrappage scheme...
>>>>> These green ideas eh?
>>>>>
>>>>> Next there will be subsidies for new boilers and solar
>>>>> power...........oh dear
>>>>>
>>>> Boiler Scrappage scheme just ended. We got one of the last payouts..
>>>> �400.
>>>>
>>>> Ta.
>>> Still waiting for my �400.
>>>
>>> The new boiler is great.
>>
>> Wait until it breaks down.
>>
>> I've tried to find a report on this I read last year. It recommended
>> keeping an older boiler if it was in good condition because newer
>> boilers, while more efficient, are more likely to break down. Some
>> have needed complete replacement after as little as 5 years.
>
> The new one is an A1 blue-chip brand, with a five-year guarantee with
> servicing included in the price. I was able to cancel the BT c/h
> maintenance contract - �23.84 a month - that's �1430 saved over five
> years. Add the �400 scrappage, and the new boiler costs us about �400...

And your fuel savings? That should be a couple of hundred pounds a year for
an average user.

Adam


From: TimB on
On 5 Apr, 16:56, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Understood and most of us that started driving in the seventies and before
> are pretty much the same. But working with such limited instruction you
> could dismantle a car without endangering yourself or others.
>
> Hence my comment that it doesn't need a mechanic to dismantle a car.- Hide quoted text -

On your driveway, you're absolutely right. For a government (or any
employer) there have to be risk assessments and stuff to try and fend
off the man-with-a-spanner's lawyers when he drops a hammer on his
toe.

Whether or not you can do the job doesn't enter into it. Having a bit
of paper to say you've been taught how to safely do the job is all
that counts in this situation.
From: Adrian on
TimB <stokefolk(a)gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>> Hence my comment that it doesn't need a mechanic to dismantle a car.-

> On your driveway, you're absolutely right. For a government (or any
> employer) there have to be risk assessments and stuff to try and fend
> off the man-with-a-spanner's lawyers when he drops a hammer on his toe.

Rather more importantly, there's the various environmental legislation -
fuel, oil, brake fluid etc all have to be drained off properly. Then the
various recyclable materials have to be identified and separated.

The dismantling's the easy bit. When did you last see an "old-style"
scrappy?
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