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From: Nick Finnigan on 30 Jul 2010 14:40 Harry Bloomfield wrote: > > Are you seriously suggesting that you are unable to maintain a gap ahead > of you, which is the size of an HGV? All you need do is ensure the > safety gap ahead of you coincides with a vehicle on your right - simples. No, what you want to do is ensure that there is nothing to your immediate right. Whether or not the gap ahead of you coincides with a vehicle on your right.
From: GT on 30 Jul 2010 17:48 "Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:mn.f44b7da762233383.106911(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk... > GT wrote : >> But surely they pulled out of L1 to overtake the car, so how would they >> then 'forget' he is there in L1 before pulling back in after their >> overtake. I think the little car in L1 has just been unlucky (or lucky!). >> I might be missing something from the story, but it doesn't sound like he >> positioned himself in their blindspots, but they overtook him and then >> didn't use proper mirrors before pulling back into L1. > > No, no they had both been in their respective lanes for quite some time, > it was just that the driver of the silver car would sit happily in the > blind spots of the three I noticed for a very long time and effectively > disappear from the drivers in L2. I could see what was going to happen > from the silver cars bad positioning. I don't agree with the statement about the silver car's 'bad positioning'. He was in the normal lane. Once the overtaking cars had passed, they should have moved back over to the inside lane. Unless the silver car was playing 'silly buggers' and speeding up / slowing down, then the problem is much a far reaching 'bad lane etiquette' problem, rife throughout the UK. The inside lane is for everyone - the outer lanes are for overtaking. Move back to the inside lane when finished overtaking, even if you plan to overtake another vehicle in 40 seconds time. In my experience, driving on the continent for about 10 minutes shows how lanes should work - we just don't 'get it' in the UK!
From: Harry Bloomfield on 30 Jul 2010 18:21 on 30/07/2010, GT supposed : > I don't agree with the statement about the silver car's 'bad positioning'. He > was in the normal lane. Once the overtaking cars had passed, They were not actually overtaking, just both lanes drifting along at fairly similar speeds. > they should have > moved back over to the inside lane. Unless the silver car was playing 'silly > buggers' and speeding up / slowing down, then the problem is much a far > reaching 'bad lane etiquette' problem, rife throughout the UK. I don't think he was varying his speed by much, none the less he seemed always to be in someone's blind spot with plenty of gap ahead of him to move into and remove himself from the danger. > The inside > lane is for everyone - the outer lanes are for overtaking. Move back to the > inside lane when finished overtaking, even if you plan to overtake another > vehicle in 40 seconds time. In my experience, driving on the continent for > about 10 minutes shows how lanes should work - we just don't 'get it' in the > UK! I agree completely. How come L1 and L2 can be totally devoid of any vehicles for half a mile, yet there is a very dodgy nose to tail queue in L3 for all of that distance as happened three times this tea time on the A1/M. It makes absolutely no sense and it is very, very dangerous. Why do they all need to form a queue and make the delays so much worse? -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
From: Brimstone on 30 Jul 2010 18:23 "Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:mn.f5797da79987e554.106911(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk... > on 30/07/2010, GT supposed : >> I don't agree with the statement about the silver car's 'bad >> positioning'. He was in the normal lane. Once the overtaking cars had >> passed, > > They were not actually overtaking, just both lanes drifting along at > fairly similar speeds. > >> they should have moved back over to the inside lane. Unless the silver >> car was playing 'silly buggers' and speeding up / slowing down, then the >> problem is much a far reaching 'bad lane etiquette' problem, rife >> throughout the UK. > > I don't think he was varying his speed by much, none the less he seemed > always to be in someone's blind spot with plenty of gap ahead of him to > move into and remove himself from the danger. > >> The inside lane is for everyone - the outer lanes are for overtaking. >> Move back to the inside lane when finished overtaking, even if you plan >> to overtake another vehicle in 40 seconds time. In my experience, driving >> on the continent for about 10 minutes shows how lanes should work - we >> just don't 'get it' in the UK! > > I agree completely. How come L1 and L2 can be totally devoid of any > vehicles for half a mile, yet there is a very dodgy nose to tail queue in > L3 for all of that distance as happened three times this tea time on the > A1/M. It makes absolutely no sense and it is very, very dangerous. > > Why do they all need to form a queue and make the delays so much worse? > Because they're all waiting for the sluggard ahead to get out of the way.
From: Harry Bloomfield on 31 Jul 2010 02:39
Brimstone laid this down on his screen : > "Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:mn.f5797da79987e554.106911(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk... >> on 30/07/2010, GT supposed : >>> I don't agree with the statement about the silver car's 'bad positioning'. >>> He was in the normal lane. Once the overtaking cars had passed, >> >> They were not actually overtaking, just both lanes drifting along at fairly >> similar speeds. >> >>> they should have moved back over to the inside lane. Unless the silver car >>> was playing 'silly buggers' and speeding up / slowing down, then the >>> problem is much a far reaching 'bad lane etiquette' problem, rife >>> throughout the UK. >> >> I don't think he was varying his speed by much, none the less he seemed >> always to be in someone's blind spot with plenty of gap ahead of him to >> move into and remove himself from the danger. >> >>> The inside lane is for everyone - the outer lanes are for overtaking. Move >>> back to the inside lane when finished overtaking, even if you plan to >>> overtake another vehicle in 40 seconds time. In my experience, driving on >>> the continent for about 10 minutes shows how lanes should work - we just >>> don't 'get it' in the UK! >> >> I agree completely. How come L1 and L2 can be totally devoid of any >> vehicles for half a mile, yet there is a very dodgy nose to tail queue in >> L3 for all of that distance as happened three times this tea time on the >> A1/M. It makes absolutely no sense and it is very, very dangerous. >> >> Why do they all need to form a queue and make the delays so much worse? >> > Because they're all waiting for the sluggard ahead to get out of the way. I appreciate that, but why not use the other lanes so a safe distance can be maintained? -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |