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From: D Walford on 14 May 2010 20:47 On 14/05/2010 11:41 PM, atec7 7 > wrote: > D Walford wrote: >> On 14/05/2010 10:11 PM, Feral wrote: >>> D Walford wrote: >>> >>>> So you think a leaking clutch slave cylinder is dangerous and could >>>> cause you to have an accident? >>> >>> Hooray, he got there. >>> >>> And yes I do. Go figure. >>> >> The only thing to figure is you haven't got a clue about driving, even >> if the cylinder failed completely the car won't be dangerous except in >> the hands on a total imbecile. >> A good driver can manage to drive a manual car without a clutch, it >> isn't very difficult and only takes minutes to learn. >> >> >> Daryl > I would suggest dazza it could be a factor > inexperience and arriving for a stop only to discover to late the clutch > wont work > > Hit the brake pedal and stop the car, if you can't disengage the clutch the engine stalls but the car still stops in the same distance, anyone with a clue would knock it out of gear once they find the clutch isn't doing what its supposed to but that won't make any difference to the stopping distance. Having had several clutch failures over the years I have actually done what I described so I know it works in a real life situation. Daryl
From: D Walford on 14 May 2010 20:48 On 15/05/2010 7:40 AM, Feral wrote: > atec7 7 > wrote: >> D Walford wrote: >>> On 14/05/2010 10:11 PM, Feral wrote: >>>> D Walford wrote: >>>> >>>>> So you think a leaking clutch slave cylinder is dangerous and could >>>>> cause you to have an accident? >>>> >>>> Hooray, he got there. >>>> >>>> And yes I do. Go figure. >>>> >>> The only thing to figure is you haven't got a clue about driving, even >>> if the cylinder failed completely the car won't be dangerous except in >>> the hands on a total imbecile. >>> A good driver can manage to drive a manual car without a clutch, it >>> isn't very difficult and only takes minutes to learn. > >> I would suggest dazza it could be a factor >> inexperience and arriving for a stop only to discover to late the clutch >> wont work > > Waste of breath 77, they're Victorians. ;-) > And you are an incompetent driver. Daryl
From: D Walford on 14 May 2010 20:55 On 15/05/2010 7:33 AM, Feral wrote: > D Walford wrote: >> On 14/05/2010 10:11 PM, Feral wrote: >>> D Walford wrote: >>> >>>> So you think a leaking clutch slave cylinder is dangerous and could >>>> cause you to have an accident? >>> >>> Hooray, he got there. >>> >>> And yes I do. Go figure. >>> >> The only thing to figure is you haven't got a clue about driving, even >> if the cylinder failed completely the car won't be dangerous except in >> the hands on a total imbecile. >> A good driver can manage to drive a manual car without a clutch, it >> isn't very difficult and only takes minutes to learn. > > I've always thought you were a little eliteist, but ..... > > You can't think of any scenario's that could bring you undone *before* > the realization eh? err, not you Mr Elite, an ordinary Joe or Jill. > > Fkn hell. > I see you have ignored the links I posted to studies that showed that there is little evidence that annual inspections are worthwhile. Just for fun find a quiet bit of road and try and stop your vehicle without using the clutch then go home and wash the egg off your face. Daryl
From: Feral on 14 May 2010 23:49 D Walford wrote: > On 15/05/2010 7:33 AM, Feral wrote: >> D Walford wrote: >>> On 14/05/2010 10:11 PM, Feral wrote: >>>> D Walford wrote: >>>> >>>>> So you think a leaking clutch slave cylinder is dangerous and could >>>>> cause you to have an accident? >>>> >>>> Hooray, he got there. >>>> >>>> And yes I do. Go figure. >>>> >>> The only thing to figure is you haven't got a clue about driving, even >>> if the cylinder failed completely the car won't be dangerous except in >>> the hands on a total imbecile. >>> A good driver can manage to drive a manual car without a clutch, it >>> isn't very difficult and only takes minutes to learn. >> >> I've always thought you were a little eliteist, but ..... > >> >> You can't think of any scenario's that could bring you undone *before* >> the realization eh? err, not you Mr Elite, an ordinary Joe or Jill. >> >> Fkn hell. >> > I see you have ignored the links I posted to studies that showed that > there is little evidence that annual inspections are worthwhile. > Just for fun find a quiet bit of road and try and stop your vehicle > without using the clutch then go home and wash the egg off your face. Nah, I didn't. I had gardening to do, didn't I. Anyhoo: Rompe and Seul (1985) noted that inspection programs may also influence and reduce crashes by increasing drivers� understanding of the need for regular maintenance, of safety issues and of the condition of their own car. These authors also note that their review of US studies suggests that periodic roadworthiness inspections could reduce the number of accidents caused by vehicle defects by about 50%. Monash in closing: In the context of the contribution of vehicle defects to crashes, although the percentage may appear to be small in absolute terms, its importance relative to other contributing factors may be regarded as *significant*. It would thus be useful to have a study which provides a perspective of the changing landscape of contributing factors to crash and serious injury risk. Back to gardening Daz. Thanks. -- Take Care. ~~ Feral Al ( @..@) (\- :-P -/) ((.>__oo__<.)) ^^^ % ^^^
From: atec7 7 ""atec77" on 15 May 2010 02:11
D Walford wrote: > On 14/05/2010 11:41 PM, atec7 7 > wrote: >> D Walford wrote: >>> On 14/05/2010 10:11 PM, Feral wrote: >>>> D Walford wrote: >>>> >>>>> So you think a leaking clutch slave cylinder is dangerous and could >>>>> cause you to have an accident? >>>> >>>> Hooray, he got there. >>>> >>>> And yes I do. Go figure. >>>> >>> The only thing to figure is you haven't got a clue about driving, even >>> if the cylinder failed completely the car won't be dangerous except in >>> the hands on a total imbecile. >>> A good driver can manage to drive a manual car without a clutch, it >>> isn't very difficult and only takes minutes to learn. >>> >>> >>> Daryl >> I would suggest dazza it could be a factor >> inexperience and arriving for a stop only to discover to late the clutch >> wont work >> >> > > Hit the brake pedal and stop the car, if you can't disengage the clutch > the engine stalls but the car still stops in the same distance, anyone > with a clue would knock it out of gear once they find the clutch isn't > doing what its supposed to but that won't make any difference to the > stopping distance. > Having had several clutch failures over the years I have actually done > what I described so I know it works in a real life situation. > > > > Daryl Not always that easy dazza , it happened to me once about 35 years ago in s 1 tonne trayback and wont ever again but I had only been driving maybe 10 years now I am old enough to not know everything |