From: D Walford on
On 14/05/2010 11:41 PM, atec7 7 > wrote:
> D Walford wrote:
>> On 14/05/2010 10:11 PM, Feral wrote:
>>> D Walford wrote:
>>>
>>>> So you think a leaking clutch slave cylinder is dangerous and could
>>>> cause you to have an accident?
>>>
>>> Hooray, he got there.
>>>
>>> And yes I do. Go figure.
>>>
>> The only thing to figure is you haven't got a clue about driving, even
>> if the cylinder failed completely the car won't be dangerous except in
>> the hands on a total imbecile.
>> A good driver can manage to drive a manual car without a clutch, it
>> isn't very difficult and only takes minutes to learn.
>>
>>
>> Daryl
> I would suggest dazza it could be a factor
> inexperience and arriving for a stop only to discover to late the clutch
> wont work
>
>

Hit the brake pedal and stop the car, if you can't disengage the clutch
the engine stalls but the car still stops in the same distance, anyone
with a clue would knock it out of gear once they find the clutch isn't
doing what its supposed to but that won't make any difference to the
stopping distance.
Having had several clutch failures over the years I have actually done
what I described so I know it works in a real life situation.



Daryl
From: D Walford on
On 15/05/2010 7:40 AM, Feral wrote:
> atec7 7 > wrote:
>> D Walford wrote:
>>> On 14/05/2010 10:11 PM, Feral wrote:
>>>> D Walford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So you think a leaking clutch slave cylinder is dangerous and could
>>>>> cause you to have an accident?
>>>>
>>>> Hooray, he got there.
>>>>
>>>> And yes I do. Go figure.
>>>>
>>> The only thing to figure is you haven't got a clue about driving, even
>>> if the cylinder failed completely the car won't be dangerous except in
>>> the hands on a total imbecile.
>>> A good driver can manage to drive a manual car without a clutch, it
>>> isn't very difficult and only takes minutes to learn.
>
>> I would suggest dazza it could be a factor
>> inexperience and arriving for a stop only to discover to late the clutch
>> wont work
>
> Waste of breath 77, they're Victorians. ;-)
>
And you are an incompetent driver.



Daryl
From: D Walford on
On 15/05/2010 7:33 AM, Feral wrote:
> D Walford wrote:
>> On 14/05/2010 10:11 PM, Feral wrote:
>>> D Walford wrote:
>>>
>>>> So you think a leaking clutch slave cylinder is dangerous and could
>>>> cause you to have an accident?
>>>
>>> Hooray, he got there.
>>>
>>> And yes I do. Go figure.
>>>
>> The only thing to figure is you haven't got a clue about driving, even
>> if the cylinder failed completely the car won't be dangerous except in
>> the hands on a total imbecile.
>> A good driver can manage to drive a manual car without a clutch, it
>> isn't very difficult and only takes minutes to learn.
>
> I've always thought you were a little eliteist, but .....

>
> You can't think of any scenario's that could bring you undone *before*
> the realization eh? err, not you Mr Elite, an ordinary Joe or Jill.
>
> Fkn hell.
>
I see you have ignored the links I posted to studies that showed that
there is little evidence that annual inspections are worthwhile.
Just for fun find a quiet bit of road and try and stop your vehicle
without using the clutch then go home and wash the egg off your face.


Daryl
From: Feral on
D Walford wrote:
> On 15/05/2010 7:33 AM, Feral wrote:
>> D Walford wrote:
>>> On 14/05/2010 10:11 PM, Feral wrote:
>>>> D Walford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So you think a leaking clutch slave cylinder is dangerous and could
>>>>> cause you to have an accident?
>>>>
>>>> Hooray, he got there.
>>>>
>>>> And yes I do. Go figure.
>>>>
>>> The only thing to figure is you haven't got a clue about driving, even
>>> if the cylinder failed completely the car won't be dangerous except in
>>> the hands on a total imbecile.
>>> A good driver can manage to drive a manual car without a clutch, it
>>> isn't very difficult and only takes minutes to learn.
>>
>> I've always thought you were a little eliteist, but .....
>
>>
>> You can't think of any scenario's that could bring you undone *before*
>> the realization eh? err, not you Mr Elite, an ordinary Joe or Jill.
>>
>> Fkn hell.
>>
> I see you have ignored the links I posted to studies that showed that
> there is little evidence that annual inspections are worthwhile.
> Just for fun find a quiet bit of road and try and stop your vehicle
> without using the clutch then go home and wash the egg off your face.

Nah, I didn't. I had gardening to do, didn't I.

Anyhoo:

Rompe and Seul (1985) noted that inspection programs may also
influence and reduce crashes
by increasing drivers´┐Ż understanding of the need for regular
maintenance, of safety issues and
of the condition of their own car. These authors also note
that their review of US studies suggests that periodic
roadworthiness inspections could reduce the number of
accidents caused by vehicle defects by about 50%.

Monash in closing:

In the context of the contribution of vehicle defects to
crashes, although the percentage may
appear to be small in absolute terms, its importance relative
to other contributing factors may
be regarded as *significant*. It would thus be useful to have
a study which provides a
perspective of the changing landscape of contributing factors
to crash and serious injury risk.

Back to gardening Daz. Thanks.

--
Take Care. ~~
Feral Al ( @..@)
(\- :-P -/)
((.>__oo__<.))
^^^ % ^^^
From: atec7 7 ""atec77" on
D Walford wrote:
> On 14/05/2010 11:41 PM, atec7 7 > wrote:
>> D Walford wrote:
>>> On 14/05/2010 10:11 PM, Feral wrote:
>>>> D Walford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So you think a leaking clutch slave cylinder is dangerous and could
>>>>> cause you to have an accident?
>>>>
>>>> Hooray, he got there.
>>>>
>>>> And yes I do. Go figure.
>>>>
>>> The only thing to figure is you haven't got a clue about driving, even
>>> if the cylinder failed completely the car won't be dangerous except in
>>> the hands on a total imbecile.
>>> A good driver can manage to drive a manual car without a clutch, it
>>> isn't very difficult and only takes minutes to learn.
>>>
>>>
>>> Daryl
>> I would suggest dazza it could be a factor
>> inexperience and arriving for a stop only to discover to late the clutch
>> wont work
>>
>>
>
> Hit the brake pedal and stop the car, if you can't disengage the clutch
> the engine stalls but the car still stops in the same distance, anyone
> with a clue would knock it out of gear once they find the clutch isn't
> doing what its supposed to but that won't make any difference to the
> stopping distance.
> Having had several clutch failures over the years I have actually done
> what I described so I know it works in a real life situation.
>
>
>
> Daryl
Not always that easy dazza , it happened to me once about 35 years ago

in s 1 tonne trayback and wont ever again but I had only been driving
maybe 10 years
now I am old enough to not know everything
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