From: Adrian on 14 Apr 2010 06:05
Phil Stovell <phil(a)stovell.nospam.org.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:
> Or those environmentally friendly horses and riders that go out of
> control unless you pass them at 2 MPH on the wrong side of the road
> whilst depositing 10 tonnes of steaming compost on the tarmac?
From: Adrian on 14 Apr 2010 06:12
Doug <jagmad(a)riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
>> > Makes you wonder how many of these dangerous cars are currently still
>> > allowed to be in use in the UK, along with all the others with
>> > serious faults, doesn't it?
>> > "Toyota suspends US sales of Lexus GX 460
>> Very very very few, Duhg, since the Lexus GX isn't officially sold in
>> the UK. Never has been. If there are any here, they're personal
> Still, they are allowed here
Are they? I have no idea if the Lexus GX is EU type approved or not. I'd
doubt it is. So any personal imports would have to go through single-
vehicle approval tests, which would certainly require various
modifications to be made.
> but not in the US
Yes, they are. Toyota have withdrawn them from sale voluntarily and
> the same as the other faulty Toyotas.
Even though any problem there may or may not be with the GX is unrelated
to any other known Toyota issue.
> Does road safety mean nothing to our government?
More than it means to you. For you, it's merely a handy stick to beat
your monomaniacal drum with.
From: boltar2003 on 14 Apr 2010 06:14
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:00:04 +0100
Phil Stovell <phil(a)stovell.nospam.org.uk> wrote:
>Or those environmentally friendly horses and riders that go out of control
>unless you pass them at 2 MPH on the wrong side of the road whilst
>depositing 10 tonnes of steaming compost on the tarmac?
And usually ridden by young girls who have no hope of controlling the animal
if it gets skittish.
I wish someone would explain why these kids are allowed to take a one ton
animal on the roads when they're too young to be allowed to even ride a
scooter never mind drive a car of the same weight as the horse.
From: John Turner on 14 Apr 2010 06:48
> To try to equate the danger presented by a non-faulty bicycle at 15mph
> with a faulty car capable fo very high speeds indeed is utterly
Why is it? If ridden/driven inappropriately any vehicle, whether propelled
by an engine or by pedals, could easily cause injury or death.
From: Doug on 14 Apr 2010 07:09
On 14 Apr, 11:04, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On 14 Apr, 10:54, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> > On 14 Apr, 10:47, "Mrcheerful" <nbk...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Doug wrote:
> > > > Makes you wonder how many of these dangerous cars are currently still
> > > > allowed to be in use in the UK, along with all the others with serious
> > > > faults, doesn't it?
> > > > "Toyota suspends US sales of Lexus GX 460
> > > > Japanese carmaker Toyota has announced that it will suspend sales in
> > > > the US of one of its luxury vehicles.
> > > > The move came after a US consumer organisation warned customers not to
> > > > buy the Lexus GX 460 four-wheel drive because of fears it could roll
> > > > over.
> > > > The last time it judged a vehicle's performance unacceptable was in
> > > > 2001..."
> > > > More:
> > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8618585.stm
> > > when will 'they' do something about these dangerous electric bicycles with
> > > the over powerful motors would be more relevant to a UK newsgroup.
> > To try to equate the danger presented by a non-faulty bicycle at 15mph
> > with a faulty car capable fo very high speeds indeed is utterly
> > ludicrous.
> Why? It could still cause a serious or fatal accident. I would
> personally feel much safer in any Toyota or Lexus car, than on one of
> these dangerous contraptions.
Its not the danger to the user but the danger posed to other road
users when driving a faulty car.
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