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From: Eeyore on 16 May 2007 04:09 Gary V wrote: > hc23hc <hc23...(a)mac.com> wrote: > > Gary VD wrote: > > > > > MB didn't import the smart to the US - because they > > > figured out that they wouldn't sell enough to make the effort > > > profitable. Because not enough people would want to buy them. > > > > > And which regulations are you speaking of? European exhaust > > > regulations, while different from those in the US, are essentially of > > > the same magnitude of difficulty to achieve. The differences in > > > signals and lighting have minimal impact on cost. Those European > > > makers could certify for the US market if they chose to - and a number > > > of them have chosen to do so, after weighing the costs and benefits. > > > > Bullshit. > > > > Here's another great car you can't buy here (or anywhere else now) due > > to American automotive isolationism. > > > > 95.3 miles per gallon > > 81g/km CO2 emissions > > 0.228g/km CO emissions > > 0.240g/km Nox emissions > > 0.261g/km HC/Nox emissions > > 0.0021g/km Particulate emissions > > > > 0-60mph: 14 seconds > > Top speed: 106mph (where permitted) > > Coefficient drag: 0.25 > > > > Weight: 930kg (empty) 1225kg (max) > > > > http://www.greenconsumerguide.com/audi_a2_tdi.php > > > > I wanted to buy one of those here in California in 2003. No way. > > "Prohibited By Law" was the excuse. > > Why is it prohibited? Not because CA doesn't want you to have it. > Rather, because Audi has decided NOT to certify it for the US market. Because the US diesel certification standards have recently been made more arduous. It's basically a trade barrier. > Note in that link you provided it's also not certified for the UK > market. No. For some reason Audi don't sell it in the UK. A purely marketing decision. If it has European certification that's good for the UK. We don't have internal trade barriers in Europe. > If you think you can make money selling this vehicle in the US, there > is nothing prohibiting you from negotiating with Audi for sales rights I expect there is actually ! Graham
From: Eeyore on 16 May 2007 04:12 John Mayson wrote: > Gary V wrote: > > And which regulations are you speaking of? European exhaust > > regulations, while different from those in the US, are essentially of > > the same magnitude of difficulty to achieve. The differences in > > signals and lighting have minimal impact on cost. Those European > > makers could certify for the US market if they chose to - and a number > > of them have chosen to do so, after weighing the costs and benefits. > > I thought the US had more stringent emissions and crash tests than they > have in Europe. I believe the US requires less emissions but these are already so low it begs belief that they need further tightening. They have just nearly killed off the diesel car just as low sulphur fuel became available that could have made 'clean diesels' popular. Whether US crah tests make safer cars is highly debatable. It certainly makes for heavier, less fuel efficient cars. Graham
From: * US on 16 May 2007 09:00 On Wed, 16 May 2007 08:00:13 GMT, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >hc23hc wrote: > >> Gary VD wrote: >> > >> > MB didn't import the smart to the US - because they >> > figured out that they wouldn't sell enough to make the effort >> > profitable. Because not enough people would want to buy them. >> > >> > And which regulations are you speaking of? European exhaust >> > regulations, while different from those in the US, are essentially of >> > the same magnitude of difficulty to achieve. The differences in >> > signals and lighting have minimal impact on cost. Those European >> > makers could certify for the US market if they chose to - and a number >> > of them have chosen to do so, after weighing the costs and benefits. >> >> Bullshit. >> >> Here's another great car you can't buy here (or anywhere else now) due >> to American automotive isolationism. >> >> 95.3 miles per gallon >> 81g/km CO2 emissions >> 0.228g/km CO emissions >> 0.240g/km Nox emissions >> 0.261g/km HC/Nox emissions >> 0.0021g/km Particulate emissions >> >> 0-60mph: 14 seconds >> Top speed: 106mph (where permitted) >> Coefficient drag: 0.25 >> >> Weight: 930kg (empty) 1225kg (max) >> >> http://www.greenconsumerguide.com/audi_a2_tdi.php >> >> I wanted to buy one of those here in California in 2003. No way. >> "Prohibited By Law" was the excuse. > >It just shows what you can do with a *1.2 litre turbo diesel* ! > >Does any US car have an engine that small ? Isn't that more the size you use on >lawnmowers ? > >Graham There are lawnmowers that can probably get to 60 mph in less than 14 seconds ... http://www.mse1.com/fudd/
From: Fred G. Mackey on 16 May 2007 09:07 Eeyore wrote: > > Rudy Canoza wrote: > > >>There should be no minimum wage at all. It destroys >>employment and hurts poor people. > > > LMAO ! > > Yes, they'd be so much better off on $3 an hour ! > That would be better than being unenmployed. But, of course, many jobs pay more than minimum wage anyway. > Graham >
From: Fred G. Mackey on 16 May 2007 09:10
Eeyore wrote: > >>Models such as? MB didn't import the smart to the US - because they >>figured out that they wouldn't sell enough to make the effort >>profitable. Because not enough people would want to buy them. > > > They are about to start selling the Smart in the US actually. I actually thought they were already being sold (or at least they were trying to sell them). I've seen one on the streets here and a co-worker was considering one and had sales brochures. She decided she didn't want to drive a roller-skate though. |