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From: Steve Firth on 6 Dec 2009 14:43 MasonS(a)BP.com <MasonS(a)BP.com> wrote: > On 6 Dec, 19:13, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > > Mas...(a)BP.com <Mas...(a)BP.com> wrote: > > > On 6 Dec, 18:28, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > > > > Mas...(a)BP.com <Mas...(a)BP.com> wrote: > > > . > > > > > > Mention of a car is like a red rag with a bull to you lycra tossers > > > > isn't it? You can't see past the word "car" and go into your automatic > > > > anti-motorist rant. > > > > > I was thinking that earlier on when I was planning my holiday. I will > > > be driving my Alfa Romeo 159 to Estonia and then back through Sweden > > > and Norway in June. 3000 miles all told. > > > > That's the "some of my best friends are black" defence. > > No - it's the I can see the picture from boths sides defence. Can you? You're just kidding yourself. But I also cycle as it well known in uk.rec.psycholing. However I don't feel the need to post drivel about how fit and healthy I am nor to give myself a big smug public pat on the back for my use of a cycle. I'm willing to accept that everyone has a different work pattern and for many use of PT and cycle is impossible or impractical. > > And an Alfa, <wipes tears of laughter from eyes> so you're not keen on > > motoring then but you are a big fan of breakdown organisations. > > I wouldn't know. In 35 years of driving I've never used a breakdown > service. When my old British Leyland cars used to conk out, I fixed > them myself on the side of the road. My last Alfa 156 did 130,000 > miles, never broke down and it went around Moldova and Ukraine on some > very dodgy roads. Yes of course it did. And the last Alfa I drove, a 156, spontaneously disintegrated around me on a motorway journey. Heck even my Italian neighbours laugh at Alfa drivers.
From: MasonS on 6 Dec 2009 14:53 On 6 Dec, 19:41, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > "Steve Firth" <%ste...(a)malloc.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:1jabf70.okj2s5pvisuoN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk... > > > Mas...(a)BP.com <Mas...(a)BP.com> wrote: > > >> but then I'm not the one trying to justify my driving a big > >> engined car by stupidly arguing that a cyclist is breathing out more > >> CO2 than a 1.5 tonne car gives out. > > > Nobody has argued such a thing. I have however pointed out that when > > "mileburner" claimed that riding a bicycle produces no emissions that he > > was incorrect. I cited a booklet producing by a cycling pressure group > > as evidence. > > Oh another twist of Firth. > > If you care to read back you will see that I claimed that my *vehicle* > emissions would be nil. > > My bicycles do not breath. He'll probably argue that the frame and forks used energy to get made, the rubber had to be shipped from Malaysia in a ship, the machine that makes the spokes used some electricity and so on. My old gaffer used to say that to me after he swanned into work in his Range Rover before lecturing us in how to live a "green" lifetstyle :-/ I asked him how much energy it took to make his car, but he couldn't say. It's as old as the hills - it's even in the Bible as this from Matthew. "You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." Nothing changes in 2000 years, eh? ;-) -- Simon Mason -- Simon Mason
From: Steve Firth on 6 Dec 2009 14:55 mileburner <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1jabf70.okj2s5pvisuoN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk... > > MasonS(a)BP.com <MasonS(a)BP.com> wrote: > > > >> but then I'm not the one trying to justify my driving a big > >> engined car by stupidly arguing that a cyclist is breathing out more > >> CO2 than a 1.5 tonne car gives out. > > > > Nobody has argued such a thing. I have however pointed out that when > > "mileburner" claimed that riding a bicycle produces no emissions that he > > was incorrect. I cited a booklet producing by a cycling pressure group > > as evidence. > > Oh another twist of Firth. Not at all. > If you care to read back you will see that I claimed that my *vehicle* > emissions would be nil. > > My bicycles do not breath. Oh look who's twisting.
From: MasonS on 6 Dec 2009 15:02 On 6 Dec, 19:43, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: > Yes of course it did. And the last Alfa I drove, a 156, spontaneously > disintegrated around me on a motorway journey. Heck even my Italian > neighbours laugh at Alfa drivers.- Really? I drove mine up and down autobahns at 130 mph for 10 years, no problem. The best thing about them is that the depreciate like a stone, so I picked up a 2 year old 2.2 JTS that cost £24k new for only £13k with 10k on the clock. Bargain. -- Simon Mason
From: dan on 6 Dec 2009 15:07
Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> writes: > In article <cb415707-1c7a-4a8d-83db-688283f71829@ > 19g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>, MasonS(a)BP.com says... >> That's as dumb as saying that the molten iron in the Earth's core is >> the same old iron from when the Earth was formed 5 billion years ago >> (that's 5,000 million years) and we can therefore tap into it and pour >> it over the planet's surface with no harm done. > > What do you think volcanos do? Quite a lot of damage, if Vesuvius is at all typical. "No harm done" is certainly not a claim I would have made -dan |