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From: Milton on 26 Jul 2010 08:04 "Atheist Chaplain" <abused(a)cia.gov> wrote in message news:4c4d53dc$2(a)news.x-privat.org... > > "PHATRS" <stoptryingtosp(a)m.me> wrote in message > news:i2j0o0$gls$1(a)news.albasani.net... >> On 26/07/10 13:47, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> "PHATRS"<stoptryingtosp(a)m.me> wrote in message >>> news:i2iv7j$f1h$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>> On 26/07/10 13:15, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> "Noddy"<Mission.Control(a)NASA.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:4c4cf6fc$0$12395$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Trevor Wilson"<trevor(a)rageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>> news:8b3tvvFn0tU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>>>> >>>>>>> Let's see the Pollys place themselves into Diesels or Prius' BEFORE >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> am >>>>>>> forced to trade up(?) to a new car. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [Shakes head] >>>>>> >>>>>> As I understand it, Gillard's version of the "cash for clunkers" >>>>>> scheme >>>>>> is >>>>>> an incentive, not compulsory, so I don't think anyone will be forcing >>>>>> you >>>>>> to do anything. >>>>> >>>>> **I agree. Part of point is that it is highly likely that my 'clunker' >>>>> manages better fuel consumption than the PM's Com-Car. If pollies want >>>>> us >>>>> to >>>>> invest in better fuel economy, then they should be driving around in >>>>> Prius' >>>>> (or is that Priii?) or a Diesel first. Those boats that most pollies >>>>> tool >>>>> around in are horrible consumers of fuel. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> 'cept priiii aren't big enough for the fat cats. >>> >>> **Anyone too big to fit into a Prius won't be alive much longer. They >>> should >>> be walking anyway. >>> >>> >> >> My point was that Priiii are not big limo-like cars. Not big enough for >> the egos of pollies. > > So what about a Lexus Hybrid SUV ?? Or even a Camry Hybrid? Regards Milton
From: Atheist Chaplain on 26 Jul 2010 08:39 "Milton" <millame23(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4c4d7954$0$28663$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > > "Noddy" <Mission.Control(a)NASA.com> wrote in message > news:4c4cf6fc$0$12395$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... >> >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor(a)rageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:8b3tvvFn0tU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >>> Let's see the Pollys place themselves into Diesels or Prius' BEFORE I am >>> forced to trade up(?) to a new car. >>> >>> [Shakes head] >> >> As I understand it, Gillard's version of the "cash for clunkers" scheme >> is an incentive, not compulsory, so I don't think anyone will be forcing >> you to do anything. > > How dare she call my 180B a clunker. Clapper maybe, but no clunker. > > Regards > > Milton if she wants to give me $2k for my beat up '90 Laser she is welcome, I don't want to trade it for another car, just get rid of it as it is starting to cost a bit to keep on the road :-)
From: Marts on 26 Jul 2010 16:53 Trevor Wilson wrote... > I was thinking about this over the weekend. > > Anyone know what the fuel consumption figures of the PM's Com-Car is? > > I assume it is a V8. Fuel consumption would be no better than 9L/100km. > Combined figures are going to be considerably worse. If it's a Statesman then surely it'd have to be north of 10l/100km on a good day. It would be closer to 15 or more with the stop start city driving that it'd mostly get. > My 1992 6 cyl Dunny-dore returns around 7.5 L/100km. I reckong that figure That sounds a bit optimistic. > is probably superior to the PM's car. What am I going to get (that has > similar load carrying capacity of my Dunny Dore) with better fuel economy? A > Diesel van? The problem with this idea of Gillards is that most people who drive these older cars probably do so because they cannot afford new ones. And that is what this election promise is about. If they can't afford a new car now, $2k (after purchase) will not allow them to afford it later on. And if they do get this rebate chances are that it won't go back into paying off the high interest loan for the car, but perhaps into other things. And what's the bet that the price of cars go up accordingly?
From: Trevor Wilson on 26 Jul 2010 17:21 "Marts" <marts(a)ymail.com> wrote in message news:241r469cq13lmbopt3c42coe7i5m6vnjs0(a)astraweb.com... > Trevor Wilson wrote... > >> I was thinking about this over the weekend. >> >> Anyone know what the fuel consumption figures of the PM's Com-Car is? >> >> I assume it is a V8. Fuel consumption would be no better than 9L/100km. >> Combined figures are going to be considerably worse. > > If it's a Statesman then surely it'd have to be north of 10l/100km on a > good > day. It would be closer to 15 or more with the stop start city driving > that it'd > mostly get. > >> My 1992 6 cyl Dunny-dore returns around 7.5 L/100km. I reckong that >> figure > > That sounds a bit optimistic. **Pessimistic, actually. I've managed 7.1L/100km on a long trip, with the cruise control on. > >> is probably superior to the PM's car. What am I going to get (that has >> similar load carrying capacity of my Dunny Dore) with better fuel >> economy? A >> Diesel van? > > The problem with this idea of Gillards is that most people who drive these > older > cars probably do so because they cannot afford new ones. And that is what > this > election promise is about. If they can't afford a new car now, $2k (after > purchase) will not allow them to afford it later on. > > And if they do get this rebate chances are that it won't go back into > paying off > the high interest loan for the car, but perhaps into other things. > > And what's the bet that the price of cars go up accordingly? **The whole thing is just silly. My point was that just because a car is old, it does not necessarily possess poor fuel consumption figures. An old car, properly maintained (which mine is) can attain very impressive fuel economy. Compared to a (say) new Land Cruiser, my VP is a stunningly economical vehicle. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
From: Trevor Wilson on 26 Jul 2010 18:23
"XR8 Sprintless" <xr8_sprint(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4c4d18c2$0$11122$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > On 26/07/2010 2:56 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> "XR8 Sprintless"<xr8_sprint(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:4c4d129c$0$11094$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> On 26/07/2010 1:47 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> "PHATRS"<stoptryingtosp(a)m.me> wrote in message >>>> news:i2iv7j$f1h$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>>> On 26/07/10 13:15, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> "Noddy"<Mission.Control(a)NASA.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4c4cf6fc$0$12395$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson"<trevor(a)rageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:8b3tvvFn0tU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let's see the Pollys place themselves into Diesels or Prius' BEFORE >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> am >>>>>>>> forced to trade up(?) to a new car. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [Shakes head] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I understand it, Gillard's version of the "cash for clunkers" >>>>>>> scheme >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> an incentive, not compulsory, so I don't think anyone will be >>>>>>> forcing >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> to do anything. >>>>>> >>>>>> **I agree. Part of point is that it is highly likely that my >>>>>> 'clunker' >>>>>> manages better fuel consumption than the PM's Com-Car. If pollies >>>>>> want >>>>>> us >>>>>> to >>>>>> invest in better fuel economy, then they should be driving around in >>>>>> Prius' >>>>>> (or is that Priii?) or a Diesel first. Those boats that most pollies >>>>>> tool >>>>>> around in are horrible consumers of fuel. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 'cept priiii aren't big enough for the fat cats. >>>> >>>> **Anyone too big to fit into a Prius won't be alive much longer. They >>>> should >>>> be walking anyway. >>>> >>>> >>> Prius is not a suitable car for me at my height and weight. They are not >>> designed for tall people. >> >> **If you were over 2 Metres tall, I might believe you. I have a mate who >> is >> 192cm tall and has no problems with his Prius. In fact, I spent some time >> in >> the US with him. He had a terrible time finding a car he could >> comfortably >> fit into. He certainly was unable to fit into the T-Bird I was driving. >> He >> ended hiring some POS FWD US built thing. A Buick, I think. Anyhoo, the >> Prius is simply not a problem for him. Unless you have some weird body >> shape, then it will be no problem for you either. Unless you are >> obscenely >> fat, of course. >> >> > I have no questions that I am fat, however the issue with the Prius is one > of design as I stated. I am 60cm across the shoulders and 80cm's from hip > to knee. The difficulty is in the fact that even with the seat fully back > my knees hit the dashboard. I have the same problems in an aircraft as > most seats are around 70cms apart which is not enough. With broad > shoulders I find that the seats are not wide enough to support my > shoulders and I impinge on the shoulder room of other occupants whether it > be a car or the aeroplane. The prius being a smaller car, is just not > suitable for me to use. **OK. And your body shape is representative of what proportion of the general population? What proportion of the general population can fit into a Prius (given my 192cm tall mate fits into one comfortably)? Get the idea? Car designers disign their product for where they can maximise profits - Make the vehicle large enough for most of the people, whilst not making the thing too big. If you, like my sister, falls outside the average range, then you need to look at a specialist vehicle. Most pollies will easily fit into a Prius (as will 90% of the poulation). -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |