From: JackH on
On Feb 26, 1:19 pm, Chris Bartram <n...(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net>
wrote:
> On 25/02/2010 23:26, JackH wrote:
>
> > It's that kind of thing, together with the way the 130bhp ones of
> > those should almost have the DMF listed as a 80k mile service item,
> > that puts me off certain brands, no matter how good or bad they look
> > in the flesh.
>
> To be fair, DMFs are probably an 80k service item on any car: Ford, PSA
> and VAG all have them fail. I'd say that's not a bad life for a clutch
> either, depending on use, so just replace them....

I've not seen a DMF fail on any of the VAG 1.9 TDIs I've had.

The ones on the Citroen C3 1.4 HDI and Doblo Multijet I've had to
drive on and off on occasion in the last few months are much lower
mileage than 80k and both play up from time in terms of juddering etc.

Obviously cheap and nasty.

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JackH
From: JackH on
On Feb 26, 7:26 am, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...(a)unixconsult.co.uk>
wrote:
> JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> > Actually, I had to get an engine temperature sensor for the M3 the
> > other day - common failure on BMWs of that era, apparently.
>
> > Anyway... it was cheaper from the local BMW dealer than I could find
> > it anywhere online, including eBay and the usuals, as in GSF and ECP,
> > and it's come with a two year warranty as well.
>
> The bay has become an atrouciously overpriced source for a lot of parts
> - dunno when that started but I think a lot of people are trying to
> capitalise on the "it's on ebay, it must be a bargain" sentiment, even
> if it isn't.

Quite possibly a knock on from how much the fees cost these days.

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JackH
From: JackH on
On Feb 26, 1:26 pm, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2010-02-25 23:58:42 +0000, JackH said:

> > As I've pointed out many times before in the past, I didn't like the
> > 55 plate 130 Mondeo I tried anyway.
>
> > On paper it made real sense - was stupidly cheap for such a new car,
> > but it wasn't a patch on the Passat it would have been replacing in
> > any respect other than it was a hatch and not a saloon,
> > unfortunately.
>
> > I know you like them... I respect the fact you want to own and drive
> > one... but for me *personally*, it wasn't a patch on the Passat, so
> > don't look at the above as a 'how dare he diss my choice of car' kind
> > of statement. ;-)
>
> Not taken that way at all. Each to their own. I like Capris and that is
> definitely one of those "matter of tast: cars.

I confess I still like those.

I blame various 70s / 80s shows like The Professionals for instilling
such perverted tastes. ;-)

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JackH
From: Chris Bartram on
On 26/02/2010 15:10, JackH wrote:

> I've not seen a DMF fail on any of the VAG 1.9 TDIs I've had.
>
Nor me, but I've heard of a few. I'd imagine that like a clutch they are
oepn to driver abuse.
From: AstraVanMann on
"Tim S Kemp" <news(a)timkemp.karoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> 80k for a DMF/Clutch that costs about �600 to replace. Works out at 0.75p
>> per mile, assuming it needs to be done that early.
>
> And VAG have there share of DMF / Clutch problems.

I don't think Merc DMFs are entirely problem free either - I'm sure people
have said that getting a Sprinter clutch done involves replacing the DMF as
a matter of course. Just a sad fact of modern stuff that it's another part
that can be considered a service item, that happens to be expensive to do.
I've got no idea if my petrol powered Sprinter has got a DMF (probably not),
but it's not something I overly worry about as the clutch is still
absolutely fine at 226k miles, and on the original (and the last 77k or
those have been with me driving it, stopping and starting the engine 80-odd
times a day, and using it for multidrop work).

> Of course, the narrow power band, DMF and smoothness issues can be solved
> with a torque convertor and autobox, unless it's a Ford.

Yup. Like you say, as long as it's a decent autobox.

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