From: Nate Nagel on 14 Oct 2007 09:29 Built_Well wrote: > Ray O wrote: > >> IMO, paying extra for lifetime wheel balance is a waste of money >> because wheels rarely go out of balance once they have been balanced. > > ======== > > That's what I thought. I've thought for years that the need to balance > tires is rare, but then one of the techs at Walmart the other day was > telling me that I should have the tires balanced every other rotation, > because tires easily become unbalanced, like from dips into potholes and > other reasons. > > I know I had my old Tercel's tires balanced at Ewers once, and they > were never the same again. Depends on the tire. A good quality tire like Michelin will stay in balance nearly forever. I have had tires go out of balance when they wear however. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel
From: Scott in Florida on 14 Oct 2007 09:50 On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:29:33 -0400, Nate Nagel <njnagel(a)roosters.net> wrote: >Built_Well wrote: >> Ray O wrote: >> >>> IMO, paying extra for lifetime wheel balance is a waste of money >>> because wheels rarely go out of balance once they have been balanced. >> >> ======== >> >> That's what I thought. I've thought for years that the need to balance >> tires is rare, but then one of the techs at Walmart the other day was >> telling me that I should have the tires balanced every other rotation, >> because tires easily become unbalanced, like from dips into potholes and >> other reasons. >> >> I know I had my old Tercel's tires balanced at Ewers once, and they >> were never the same again. > >Depends on the tire. A good quality tire like Michelin will stay in >balance nearly forever. I have had tires go out of balance when they >wear however. > >nate I disagree. I had a set of Michelins on my '92 Corolla and they went out of balance just like any other tire. -- Scott in Florida
From: Mark A on 14 Oct 2007 10:23 "Built_Well" <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:471181f8$0$68472$892e0abb(a)auth.newsreader.octanews.com... > > I mention the following shopping bargains in case anyone else > is in the market for torque wrenches and floor jacks, essential > tools for rotating your own tires. > > I saw a 1/2-inch torque wrench at Home Depot that tightens > to a maximum of 250 foot-pounds for $70. The brandname is > Husky and it's made in Taiwan. I wonder if I should get this > instead of the $80 Craftsman on sale for $60 at Sears? The > Craftsman only torques to 150 ft.-lbs. (not 250), but it is > made in the U.S.A., except for its case and packaging which > were made in Mexico. > > The Craftsman floor jack at Sears that is low-profile and > raises 2.5 tons to 15 inches appears to be the exact same > model as the Black Jack at Walmart. The Walmart one costs > $30, and the Craftsman costs $50 ($45 on sale). Both made > in China, and both apparently identical. I'll probably > buy the 2.25-ton A.C. Delco at O'Reilly since it lifts > a half-inch more to 15.5 inches for $35. > > The Michelin jack at Sam's Club lifts 3.5 tons, not the > 4 to 6 tons I mentioned last time. It lifts very high to > 22 inches for $65, but isn't really transportable like > the A.C. Delco, which come with its own carrying case. > > The 1/2-inch 150 foot-pound torqe wrench at AutoZone has > a brandname of Great Neck, and is made in Taiwan. The > O'Reilly wrench is also made in Taiwan. Both retail for > $25. The O'Reilly sales guy said theirs has a lifetime > warranty (don't know about the AutoZone one). The O'Reilly > wrench has a brandname of Precision something. > > A 3-ton pair of Sears Craftsman jack stands costs $20; $17 at > Walmart. Note these are 3-ton pairs, not 2-tons. The 3-ton > stands at Harbor Freight are also about $20 and have a range > of 11.75 inches to 16.75 inches. > > I stopped by Harbor Freight for the first time. Nice store > and very busy. They sell a 150 ft-lb, 1/2-inch torque wrench > for $20 ($15 on sale). It comes in an orange case and is made > overseas (probably Taiwan again--don't recall). > It hurt me to pass on that bargain. But I'll probably buy the > Craftsman while it's on sale for $60 until Oct. 20th, unless someone > can convince me the 250 foot-pound Husky for $70 at Home Depot > is a better wrench to buy. > > There's a 3/8-inch Craftsman wrench at Sears called the Digi-Tork > that on sale for $100 (regular $120). It has a small level-like > window that displays the torque. Despite its name, it's not digital > like the $230 Craftsman that has an accuracy of +/- 2 percent CW and > +/- 3 percent CCW, whatever CW and CCW mean. > > Happy shopping. Have you done your "first ever" oil change yet? I can't wait to hear how much preparation you do for your first time getting laid.
From: Ray O on 14 Oct 2007 11:10 "Scott in Florida" <JustAskl(a)verizon.net> wrote in message news:5164h35k9ba5rg1lhmnuph4i00hjpf3fcu(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:32:00 -0500, Built_Well > <built_well_toyota(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>Ray O wrote: >> >>> IMO, paying extra for lifetime wheel balance is a waste of money because >>> wheels rarely go out of balance once they have been balanced. >>======== >> >>That's what I thought. I've thought for years that the need to balance >>tires is rare, but then one of the techs at Walmart the other day was >>telling me that I should have the tires balanced every other rotation, >>because tires easily become unbalanced, like from dips into potholes and >>other reasons. >> >>I know I had my old Tercel's tires balanced at Ewers once, and they >>were never the same again. > > I hate to disagree with Ray, but at least in the case of the wheels on > my '92 Corolla, they DO go out of balance. Just a little is very > irritating, especially on a light car like mine. > > -- > Scott in Florida > I'll have to check out your car if I ever get down to Florida. As long as the wheel-hub mating surfaces are clean, and the wheels are torqued properly when they are installed, and the wheels do not lose weights, and the tires wear evenly, they should not go out of balance. I apply a very thin coat of anti-seize where the wheel touches the hub to prevent corrosion so the wheel mates cleanly to the hub. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Built_Well on 14 Oct 2007 13:30
Mark A wrote: > Have you done your "first ever" oil change yet? > > I can't wait to hear how much preparation you do for your first time getting > laid. ======== Mark A., you're quite a good guy. I like you. I've been with 17 different women this year. Last year I was with only 3 women the entire year. But when I turned 40 this year, I kinda went crazy. |