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From: Rob on 14 Jun 2010 14:08 Nick Finnigan wrote: || Graham Murray wrote: ||| Cynic <cynic_999(a)yahoo.co.uk> writes: ||| |||| The police have begun issuing roadside "warning notices" for |||| "sudden and excessive acceleration". A work collegue got one a |||| few weeks ago on his way to work after accelllerating from traffic |||| lights too smartly for the liking of a police officer (who himself |||| then accellerated even more and wove past three cars to catch up). ||| ||| So what is the maximum permitted ms^-2? || || "likely to cause alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the || public" || || (RTA Section 59) s59 Police Reform Act 2002. -- Rob
From: Brimstone on 14 Jun 2010 14:14 "Cynic" <cynic_999(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:j2oc16hb5qvmo5ugv3l1vald3g92h6g1ad(a)4ax.com... > Playing loud music from a car is another thing that can get you a > roadside warning apparently. > Some years ago, before every car had booming bass, a Southend (IIRC) copper got a bit creative. A lad was cruising up and down the prom showing off with his music blaring out. The copper stopped him and asked him to keep it down a couple of time. On the last occasion the copper confiscated the car on the basis that it was being used in the commission of a crime. I laughed my socks off when I read it. It's a shame a few more coppers don't think round such situations.
From: Brimstone on 14 Jun 2010 14:21 "Rob" <rsvptorob-newsREMOVE(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:jvudndMlLYa67YvRnZ2dnUVZ8l2dnZ2d(a)bt.com... > Nick Finnigan wrote: > || Graham Murray wrote: > ||| Cynic <cynic_999(a)yahoo.co.uk> writes: > ||| > |||| The police have begun issuing roadside "warning notices" for > |||| "sudden and excessive acceleration". A work collegue got one a > |||| few weeks ago on his way to work after accelllerating from traffic > |||| lights too smartly for the liking of a police officer (who himself > |||| then accellerated even more and wove past three cars to catch up). > ||| > ||| So what is the maximum permitted ms^-2? > || > || "likely to cause alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the > || public" > || > || (RTA Section 59) > > s59 Police Reform Act 2002. > http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2002/ukpga_20020030_en_7#pt4-ch2-pb5-l1g59 Nothing about "excessive acceleration" and a vehicle can only be confiscated after a warning has been given.
From: Cynic on 14 Jun 2010 14:21 On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:08:44 +0100, "Rob" <rsvptorob-newsREMOVE(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >Nick Finnigan wrote: >|| Graham Murray wrote: >||| Cynic <cynic_999(a)yahoo.co.uk> writes: >||| >|||| The police have begun issuing roadside "warning notices" for >|||| "sudden and excessive acceleration". A work collegue got one a >|||| few weeks ago on his way to work after accelllerating from traffic >|||| lights too smartly for the liking of a police officer (who himself >|||| then accellerated even more and wove past three cars to catch up). >||| >||| So what is the maximum permitted ms^-2? >|| >|| "likely to cause alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the >|| public" >|| >|| (RTA Section 59) > >s59 Police Reform Act 2002. Thanks for that. I know I had seen that section but had not been able to recall it in order to quote it for Kev and anyone else who doubts that the police have such power: 59 Vehicles used in manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance .(1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which . (a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and . (b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public, . he shall have the powers set out in subsection (3). (2) A constable in uniform shall also have the powers set out in subsection (3) where he has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle has been used on any occasion in a manner falling within subsection (1). . (3) Those powers are . (a) power, if the motor vehicle is moving, to order the person driving it to stop the vehicle; . (b) power to seize and remove the motor vehicle; . (c) power, for the purposes of exercising a power falling within paragraph (a) or (b), to enter any premises on which he has reasonable grounds for believing the motor vehicle to be; . (d) power to use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of any power conferred by any of paragraphs to (a) to (c). . (4) A constable shall not seize a motor vehicle in the exercise of the powers conferred on him by this section unless . (a) he has warned the person appearing to him to be the person whose use falls within subsection (1) that he will seize it, if that use continues or is repeated; and . (b) it appears to him that the use has continued or been repeated after the the warning. -- Cynic
From: Cynic on 14 Jun 2010 14:31
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:21:20 +0100, "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> || "likely to cause alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the >> || public" >> || >> || (RTA Section 59) >> >> s59 Police Reform Act 2002. >> >http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2002/ukpga_20020030_en_7#pt4-ch2-pb5-l1g59 > >Nothing about "excessive acceleration" and a vehicle can only be confiscated >after a warning has been given. The police have decided that excessive acceleration (amongst several other things) is something that causes alarm, distress or annoyance to the public. As I stated in my post that originally mentioned it, the police will stop and issue a formal & documented warning to the driver citing "sudden and excessive acceleration" as being the act that contravenes section 59. The vehicle & driver are then flagged on the PNC so that if it is stopped a *second* time, then the driver is prosecuted. -- Cynic |