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From: Ret. on 19 Mar 2010 04:11 Conor wrote: > On 18/03/2010 17:18, Ret. wrote: > >> I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that in the not too-distant >> future, using a mobile phone while driving will be completely banned. >> The 'hands-free' issue is just ridiculous when all the evidence shows >> that it is the actual conversation that is the distraction > > So they're going to ban people talking to each other in a car then? Have you actually read *any* of the posts on this thread? The research that has been referred to makes it very clear that there is a major difference between chatting to a passenger and talking to someone on a mobile phone. You may not think there is - but numerous pieces of research shows clearly that there *is*. > > And you don't see a problem with the police state we're rapidly > heading towards? I don't see a problem with legislation intended to make our roads safer. We managed perfectly well before mobile phones came along - I'm quite sure that we can manage perfectly well without using them when driving again. Kev
From: boltar2003 on 19 Mar 2010 05:28 On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:26:42 -0000 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> Of course it does beg the question of why 2 way radios are still legal to >> use >> in moving vehicles. Theres little difference as far as I can see between >> chatting on the phone and chatting on a CB or police radio. >> >Because one doesn't "chat" on a radio. One most certainly does. On CB at any rate, thats the whole point of it. B2003
From: Ret. on 19 Mar 2010 06:33 Bod wrote: > On 18/03/2010 16:57, Ret. wrote: >> Conor wrote: >>> On 18/03/2010 12:14, Ret. wrote: >>> >>>> *After* a crash has occurred - or before? >>>> >>> >>> So seeing as you think its so dangerous, what caused all the >>> accidents before the mobile phone was invented? What about those >>> from before even car radios were common? >> >> All the research shows that conducting a conversation on a mobile >> phone is particularly distracting when driving. It has been tested, >> over and over again, using different people in different countries - >> and all the tests show the same thing - reaction times are slower, >> hazard perception is reduced, etc. >> >> Using a mobile phone simply makes a driver less safe - and that's a >> fact. Kev >> >> > Whenever I receive a call (via handsfree), I answer and say I'll ring > you back when I can find a safe place to pull over and return the > call. Indeed. I've just this minute got back from a trip into town. Half way home my mobile rang and I answered it on my handsfree kit. The caller was Asian and immediately I was having to concentrate harder on what he was saying. I knew there was a lay-by up ahead so just told him I was driving and asked him to hang on 'til I stopped. The caller was from Linksys and was updating me in a somewhat technical way about the steps they are taking to resolve a persistent problem I have with my Linksys router. The fact that the call was technical - and the caller was Asian - meant that I needed to devote full concentration to the call. My driving concentration would undoubtedly have suffered if I had not stopped to take the call. Kev
From: Mr Benn on 19 Mar 2010 07:20 "Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message news:hnu1in$pjp$4(a)news.eternal-september.org... > On 18/03/2010 17:18, Ret. wrote: > >> I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that in the not too-distant >> future, using a mobile phone while driving will be completely banned. >> The 'hands-free' issue is just ridiculous when all the evidence shows >> that it is the actual conversation that is the distraction > > So they're going to ban people talking to each other in a car then? > > And you don't see a problem with the police state we're rapidly heading > towards? Conor, it has already been explained. Talking to a passenger in a car is quite different to talking to someone on the end of a phone connection. A passenger in a car knows when to shut up when a driver had to concentrate. Someone on the end of a phone will carry on talking which can distract the driver. The two are not comparable. If you can't understand that, it's pointless trying to argue with you.
From: NM on 19 Mar 2010 08:30
On 19 Mar, 11:51, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > "Mr Benn" <nos...(a)invalid.invalid> gurgled happily, sounding much like > they were saying: > > > Conor, it has already been explained. Talking to a passenger in a car > > is quite different to talking to someone on the end of a phone > > connection. > > No, it isn't. > > You might treat it differently, but there really is no inherent > difference. > > > A passenger in a car knows when to shut up when a driver had to > > concentrate. > > Some do, some don't. > > > Someone on the end of a phone will carry on talking which can distract > > the driver. > > You don't HAVE to listen to them, y'know. > > One thing I'd quite like to know - how does the car stereo know when to > shut up? When you push the 'off' button perhaps? |