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From: Adrian on 16 Mar 2010 08:26 ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>Would you have said that a £60/3pt fixed penalty for being on the phone >>was the most serious offence committed there? > as it was the cause of the accident..... Um, no. It was a symptom of the cause - one that happens to be nice and visible, so gets latched onto by those too thick to actually think.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 16 Mar 2010 08:29 On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:00:43 -0000, "Mr Benn" <nospam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Conversations can be every bit as distracting at times. When I'm >negotiating complicated road systems, I frequently stop talking to >passengers so that I can concentrate on the road. I'll then resume the >conversation when it's safe to do so. so do I, I also only do the simplest of outward phone calls while moving ("I am here"<hang up>). A conversation in a car can also be distracting, that doesn't make a phone call safer and phone calls are more distracting, partly because the caller cannot appreciate the drivers context. All the research says so, there's just no reason to believe otherwise other than just wanting to use the phone whatever. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: Ret. on 16 Mar 2010 09:09 Rob wrote: > NM wrote: >> On 15 Mar, 22:26, Harry Bloomfield <harry.m1...(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> >> wrote: >>> Conor submitted this idea : >>> >>>> However.... >>> >>>> See me after I'd been stood up for 10-20 minutes or carrying >>>> something and you'd realise just how bad I am but people like you >>>> never do. >>> >>> Which has what relevance to my comments? >>> >>> I have no problem at all with anyone making full use of a blue >>> badge, or the provision of cars for those who have a need for such. >>> I do take exception to misuse and abuse of either or both >>> provisions. -- >>> Regards, >>> Harry (M1BYT) (L)http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk >> >> Lots of people do, I regularly use my friends blue badge and I have >> been accosted several times by people in the supermarket car park >> because I am using the disabled bays and appear in fine phisical >> condition, most people don't realise that a carer undertaking a task >> on behalf of the badge holder can use the pass. > > Provided the badge holder is in the vehicle, or being collected of > course. What is *not* acceptable is for a carer/driver to park in a disabled bay, and then go shopping while leaving the actual badge holder sat in the car. Kev
From: Ret. on 16 Mar 2010 09:11 Mr Benn wrote: > "Dave S." <somewhere(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:hnnfbm$ptf$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > >> I totally agree that mobiles should not be used "hand held", but why >> are conversations on a hands-free phone more distracting than >> talking to a passenger in the car? > > Conversations can be every bit as distracting at times. When I'm > negotiating complicated road systems, I frequently stop talking to > passengers so that I can concentrate on the road. I'll then resume > the conversation when it's safe to do so. Exactly - and your passenger can see what is happening and will also shut up until it is safe to resume the conversation. A person on the other end of a mobile conversation cannot see what is going on and continues rabbiting. Kev
From: Ret. on 16 Mar 2010 09:15
ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:00:43 -0000, "Mr Benn" <nospam(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> Conversations can be every bit as distracting at times. When I'm >> negotiating complicated road systems, I frequently stop talking to >> passengers so that I can concentrate on the road. I'll then resume >> the conversation when it's safe to do so. > > so do I, I also only do the simplest of outward phone calls while > moving ("I am here"<hang up>). A conversation in a car can also be > distracting, that doesn't make a phone call safer and phone calls are > more distracting, partly because the caller cannot appreciate the > drivers context. All the research says so, there's just no reason to > believe otherwise other than just wanting to use the phone whatever. This is why I cannot accept Conor's claim that because he is an experienced driver he is capable of conducting a mobile phone conversation *and* concentrating fully on his driving. It cannot be done. It matters not a damn how experienced you are, or how good a driver you are, this has everything to do with the biological limitations of the human brain which cannot concentrate fully on two entirely different tasks at the same time. Kev |