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From: Mortimer on 15 Jun 2010 17:31
"Silk" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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> The new VW group CR diesel engines are also excellent and are in a
> completely different league to your aging Rover.

Do VW's new common rail diesels have the same quirk as their older Pump Duse
(PD) diesels that it is very easy to stall the engine if you don't apply
enough throttle when setting off from rest? When I was looking for a new car
last year I drove a lot of diesels (VW Golf, Peugeot 308, Ford Focus,
Vauxhall Astra, Fiat Bravo, Mazda 6) and the only one I consistently managed
to stall was the Golf. I've read other accounts of people finding this a
problem with VW's PD engine until they get used to it being more like a
petrol in that respect.

From: Adrian on 16 Jun 2010 02:19
Silk <me(a)privacy.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>> We are selling the caravan and, once it's gone, have no need for such a
>> large car. Although we have not made a firm decision, we are
>> considering downsizing to a 'medium sector' car.

> Cough! Your Rover is already "medium sector". My Octavia has more room
> inside than a Rover 75. The boot-space is getting on for double.
>
> The R75 is only large on the outside. And even then it's not that big.

*ding*

The 75 is over a decade old - and the sizes of cars, segment-to-segment,
have grown hugely in that time.
From: Adrian on 16 Jun 2010 02:20
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>> For someone who only does average annual mileage, it's probably a much
>> better buy than a diesel.

> I'd recommend doing the maths before making a firm decision, the
> difference may be less than you might think.

Are you factoring in the joys of the particulate filter in that?
From: Adrian on 16 Jun 2010 02:21
Silk <me(a)privacy.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

> Also, if you're buying second hand, you'll notice the difference even
> less.

Until you get a common-rail diesel that somebody's offloaded after mis-
fuelling...
From: Adrian on 16 Jun 2010 02:22
"Mortimer" <me(a)privacy.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

> Do VW's new common rail diesels have the same quirk as their older Pump
> Duse (PD) diesels that it is very easy to stall the engine if you don't
> apply enough throttle when setting off from rest?

The MkV Golf 1.9TDi I had the other year as a loaner certainly did. I
_think_ that was a common-rail rather than a PD, albeit not one of the
newer lumps.
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