From: Nick Finnigan on
Mortimer wrote:

> I bet it doesn't have the good low-rpm torque of a diesel so you'll have
> to change down further when accelerating out of roundabouts. That's the
> thing that's taken most adjusting to on the rare occasions that I've
> driven a petrol car - usually a loan car when my diesel is in for
> servicing.
>
> I was once loaned a 1.8 petrol Peugeot 306 when my 2.0 diesel 306 was

I think http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/VAG14TFSi.pdf has as much
torque as http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/psahdi90.pdf except between
2,200 and 2,700 rpm (ish), but is not measured at really low revs.
From: Steve Firth on
Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> The 75 is over a decade old - and the sizes of cars, segment-to-segment,
> have grown hugely in that time.

The quality of cars has also improved hugely. But Kevin has developed
cellar palate where the car he currently drives is, in his mind, the
only one that gets it right. His comment on the C-class Merc showed that
up. The Merc has one major fault, it's ugly as sin. Other than that it's
a much, much, much better car than the Rover ever was. Kevin however
could not see past "isn't a Rover".


From: Silk on
On 15/06/2010 22:31, Mortimer wrote:
> "Silk" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:hv8ktb$9q$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>> The new VW group CR diesel engines are also excellent and are in a
>> completely different league to your aging Rover.
>
> Do VW's new common rail diesels have the same quirk as their older Pump
> Duse (PD) diesels that it is very easy to stall the engine if you don't
> apply enough throttle when setting off from rest? When I was looking for
> a new car last year I drove a lot of diesels (VW Golf, Peugeot 308, Ford
> Focus, Vauxhall Astra, Fiat Bravo, Mazda 6) and the only one I
> consistently managed to stall was the Golf. I've read other accounts of
> people finding this a problem with VW's PD engine until they get used to
> it being more like a petrol in that respect.

Yes, they are easy to stall compared with, say, a PAS diesel.
From: Silk on
On 16/06/2010 13:11, Ret. wrote:
> Adrian wrote:
>> "Tim Downie" <timdownie2003(a)yahoo.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
>> much like they were saying:
>>
>>> Don't believe everything that you read about the DSG gearbox. It's
>>> good, but it's not miraculous. It's heavier than the manual box and
>>> for my car at least (VW Touran DSG, the quoted fuel consumption
>>> figures are higher than for the manual version.
>>
>> It's also mind-numbingly complex, and there are stories of poor
>> reliability at older ages and higher mileages.
>
> OK. I'm currently on my fourth auto and have not had any problems with
> the gearbox on any of them (actually, that's not strictly true - my 1.8
> Cavalier auto had a trapped wire where the insulation had cut through
> and when that happened the autobox went into 'limp-home' mode - but
> that's hardly the fault of the box.). I wouldn't want to switch to a box
> that is likely to be troublesome, although an auto without the fuel
> penalty (or with less of a fuel penalty) than a traditional auto is
> attractive.

Take no notice of Adrienne. My DSG covered 150,000 miles without a
problem and there's nothing to suggest they're any worse than any other
type of gearbox. Some people like to make things up to make them sound
clever.
From: Silk on
On 16/06/2010 21:18, Adrian wrote:

> BTW, do you know the origins of the DSG concept? They couldn't quite get
> it to work, back in the '30s.

Same with television and look what happened to that.