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From: bod on 8 Jun 2010 09:27 Adrian wrote: > "GT" <a(a)b.c> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > >>>> Doesn't a single yellow line allow a set period of time (5 minutes?) >>>> to load and unload goods or passengers. I don't have time to confirm >>>> this, but the rule would make it legal for taxis, vans or even >>>> cyclists to stop on a single yellow for a short time. > >>> Yep. For the van driver to unload and deliver the goods, and for the >>> taxi driver to let the self-unloading cargo unload itself. >>> >>> The van driver needs to disembark and leave the vehicle to deliver. The >>> taxi driver does not. > >> Hmm - I see the argument, but not convinced either way about the >> technicalities. It might well be that the difference between 'stopped' >> and 'parked' is determined by whether the driver gets out of the drivers >> seat or not, but I think the law allows drivers to 'park' on single >> yellow lines for the a given time period for the purposes of >> loading/unloading cargo, passengers or perhaps bowels, if we deem their >> contents to be cargo!! > > Cardboard boxes cannot unload themselves, unlike taxi passengers. > "Unloading" your bladder or bowels doesn't count as unloading, just as > stopping to buy a sandwich or a coffee does not count as loading. > > Many moons ago, when I worked in Bloomsbury and unloading tools etc, the traffic warden told me, that as long as I had the tailgate up or the rear van doors open, he'd leave me alone, as long as I didn't take the mickey with the lenght of time, no more than 10 minutes ish. Bod
From: Dave Plowman on 8 Jun 2010 11:38 In article <876jgmFi80U8(a)mid.individual.net>, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dave Plowman <dave(a)davesound.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like > they were saying: > > And if they can ask to use the loo where they drop off their delivery, > > why can't a cabby do the same when he drops off a fare? > Because the van would be legitimately unloading - which is permitted - > whilst the taxi would not be. It entirely depends on the local regs whether loading and unloading is allowed at a particular time. Or perhaps you think delivery drivers never get parking tickets? -- *If a mute swears, does his mother wash his hands with soap? Dave Plowman dave(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12
From: Dave Plowman on 8 Jun 2010 11:40 In article <876smtFi80U15(a)mid.individual.net>, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > "GT" <a(a)b.c> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > >>> As I said in the bit you snipped, while making a drop a parcel > >>> delivery driver is most likely to be stopped on a yellow line, same as > >>> a cab driver. > >>> > >>> Finding a suitable facility isn't the issue, parking legally whilst > >>> leaving the vehicle unattended is. > >> And, in the case of yellow lines, the van driver would be legally > >> parked whilst the taxi driver would not. > > Doesn't a single yellow line allow a set period of time (5 minutes?) to > > load and unload goods or passengers. I don't have time to confirm this, > > but the rule would make it legal for taxis, vans or even cyclists to > > stop on a single yellow for a short time. > Yep. For the van driver to unload and deliver the goods, and for the > taxi driver to let the self-unloading cargo unload itself. > The van driver needs to disembark and leave the vehicle to deliver. The > taxi driver does not. Taxis can deliver things too. Like a courier does. -- *A boiled egg is hard to beat* Dave Plowman dave(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12
From: Dave Plowman on 8 Jun 2010 11:41 In article <876uqsFc8rU1(a)mid.individual.net>, bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Many moons ago, when I worked in Bloomsbury and unloading tools etc, > the traffic warden told me, that as long as I had the tailgate up or > the rear van doors open, he'd leave me alone, as long as I didn't take > the mickey with the lenght of time, no more than 10 minutes ish. Tends to be different now with privatized enforcement amd them on commission. ;-) -- *A fool and his money can throw one hell of a party. Dave Plowman dave(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12
From: Adrian on 8 Jun 2010 11:45
Dave Plowman <dave(a)davesound.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> > And if they can ask to use the loo where they drop off their >> > delivery, why can't a cabby do the same when he drops off a fare? >> Because the van would be legitimately unloading - which is permitted - >> whilst the taxi would not be. > It entirely depends on the local regs whether loading and unloading is > allowed at a particular time. Very true. > Or perhaps you think delivery drivers never get parking tickets? Plus, of course, red routes. And taxi drivers making unattended parcel rather than human deliveries - acting as a courier, in effect. But - speaking as a generality - if a taxi and a transit were both parked next to each other, unattended, for a similar amount of time, the driver of the taxi is massively less likely to be "unloading" legitimately than the driver of the transit. |