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From: Dave Plowman on 6 Jun 2010 06:19 In article <EcmdneA0qKTq85bRnZ2dnUVZ7t-dnZ2d(a)bt.com>, Brimstone <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > They only go to the garage at the end of the day - so how is that > > different from a cab? > Errr, no. Bus drivers get a meal break and some route termination points > have facilities. As can a cab driver - but any time he likes or feels like it - rather different from a bus driver. I really don't see what the argument is. A bus driver has to follow a defined route and a timetable so can only stop for a loo break where there is one on his route and is suitable for him to stop at. A cab can simply drive to the nearest one. Even if he has a fare. > > And some routes take a very long time to cover. A cab driver can stop > > any time he wants - unlike a bus driver. A licensed black cab driver > > could also be expected to know the location of loos etc. > > > Indeed. -- *Shin: a device for finding furniture in the dark * Dave Plowman dave(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12
From: JNugent on 6 Jun 2010 07:00 Brimstone wrote: > "JNugent" <JN(a)npptg.com> wrote: >> Dave Plowman wrote: >>> A black cab doesn't follow a route or a timetable. And the drivers >>> are all - or mostly - self employed so what they do in terms of >>> breaks is up to them. >> They are all self-employed. >> There is no employment-and-wages model that would work. > What's wrong with "x" hours per day at "n" pounds per hour? It's not as > if they're going far from base and can't get home. It's do with incentive. Think about it.
From: JNugent on 6 Jun 2010 07:04 Dave Plowman wrote: > JNugent <JN(a)npptg.com> wrote: >>>> it can cost many pounds to pay to park while you use a public loo, which >>>> are few and far in London >>> What do bus drivers do? Seems to me they have more of a problem than taxis. >> Why? >> They have authorised standing-places at each end of the route, and >> garages designed to cater for their needs. > They only go to the garage at the end of the day - so how is that > different from a cab? Very few cabs have garages at all, except when they need service or repair. The driver usually takes the vehicle home or to the home of another driver on the opposite shift. The authorised standing place at either end of the route is a clue. One of those is usually at a bus station or in a spot where the facilities exist nearby. I'm not saying that bus-drivers can't encounter a problem. Only that it is already recognised and covered (to some extent) within the organisation of the working day. The problem for a cab-driver in London, though (which is where the concern is raised) is particularly acute. > And some routes take a very long time to cover. A cab driver can stop any > time he wants - unlike a bus driver. Being able to stop and being allowed to stop without penalty are two different things. > A licensed black cab driver could > also be expected to know the location of loos etc. Indeed. That isn't the problem. The problem is stopping on a double yellow or red line.
From: JNugent on 6 Jun 2010 07:07 Dave Plowman wrote: > JNugent <JN(a)npptg.com> wrote: >>> There are certainly a few that give them a very bad reputation. One >>> the other day stopped to drop off a fare between a traffic light >>> bollard and the pavement - completely blocking that side of the road. >>> A few yards before or after wouldn't have been a problem. And of >>> course the punter took ages to pay. They should have their licence >>> suspended for a week for each of those totally selfish actions. >> What should they do? >> Take the punter to a different spot that isn't in your way? > Stop either a few yards earlier or later. It's called having consideration > for other road users. Something you wouldn't know about. So you *do* want the passenger dropped off in a spot other than where he wants to go, for your enhanced convenience. I see. >> Let him off the fare if he takes a little too long in paying for your >> liking? > Were you born a prat or did you have to work on it? Don't be silly. It was you who was calling for inconvenience for others (the passengers) in order to bolster your own convenience. And it was you who was complaining that a passenger took longer than you would have liked to count out the fare, therebu holding you up. Where you born that selfish or did you acquire it later in life?
From: JNugent on 6 Jun 2010 07:09
Dave Plowman wrote: > In article <86vtngFdigU6(a)mid.individual.net>, > JNugent <JN(a)npptg.com> wrote: >>>> they usually go back to the depot on a regular basis, black cabs >>>> don't usually have a depot >>> A black cab doesn't follow a route or a timetable. And the drivers are >>> all - or mostly - self employed so what they do in terms of breaks is >>> up to them. > >> They are all self-employed. > >> There is no employment-and-wages model that would work. > > Then obviously they can take a break when and where it suits them. Is that > too difficult for you to understand? Not at all. When was it raised as an issue, what is its relevance and did you have a point to try to make about it? |