Toyota Corolla May Be Recalled over Steering Problem
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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 24 Feb 2010 15:07 On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:38:46 +0000, Clive wrote: > In message <hm2chk$lug$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> writes >>One thing I've noticed, and I don't like, is that it doesn't self cancel >>once you've gone below ~35 MPH like the told ones did. If you had it set >>for 70MPH on the highway, (er, Motorway...) and go into town, if you were >>to hit the lever accidently, it's off to the races. I wonder how many >>incidents of UA were caused by this? > Not on my car, the cruise control will not function under 27 miles per > hour and if engaged whilst driving keeps the speed of that engagement not > any previous one. What model do you have? An Auris? I was talking about my '05 Scion. It remembers the last set speed until you turn off the key. I think it even remembers the setting if you turn the cruise OFF, and then back on again. I don't like it. And where the control is; I hit is accidently taking a corner one time, my had just barely brushed it and hit the RES function, and having been on the highway at 70 MPH we were off to the races on a back road! Since then I turn it OFF once I get off the highway. Always. I'm wondering how many 'unintentional accelerations' were caused by this.
From: cuhulin on 24 Feb 2010 15:21 I still have my made in Germany 1976 Hercules Moped, it has Bicycle pedals on it.Even though I haven't ridden on my Moped in years and years,I am hanging on to it though, there is something about Mopeds I have always liked. Other than that, I have owned five made in foreign Countries four wheels vehicles before.One BMW Isetta, Three air cooled/engines VWs, and one 1974 Ford/Mazda made in Japan pickup truck.An elderly gentleman (he was in U.S.Army Infantry in Europe in World War Two.He worked in Motor Pool) who used to lived down the street from me used to own that 1974 Ford/Mazda pickup truck.The doors to that pickup truck were not on that pickup truck, but he had the two doors.He had traded something to somebody else for that pickup truck.He traded that pickup truck to me for an electric chainsaw.He had been wanting to get rid of that Ford/Mazda pickup truck anyway.I finally sold that pickup truck to somebody about fifteen years ago, it had a good running four cylinder engine in it. Every since then, I have sworn off of owning anymore foreign made/foreign name brands of four wheel vehicles, cars/trucks/vans, regardeless of where they were/are made.I have had more than enough of those foreign name brand four wheels vehicles to suite me.No More for me! cuhulin
From: Clive on 24 Feb 2010 19:21 In message <hm40uf$qkn$16(a)news.eternal-september.org>, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> writes >I was talking about my '05 Scion. It remembers the last set speed until >you turn off the key. I think it even remembers the setting if you turn >the cruise OFF, and then back on again. I don't >like it. And where the control is; I hit is accidently taking a corner one >time, my had just barely brushed it and hit the RES function, and having >been on the highway at 70 MPH we were off to the races on a back road! >Since then I turn it OFF once I get off the highway. Always. > >I'm wondering how many 'unintentional accelerations' were caused by this. Yes you're right I do have an Auris, perhaps yours the more normal one and Toyota has rectified it. Acting as you say, it would give anyone not fully conversant with the setup a bit of a shock and I suspect that the panic reaction for some would be to floor the pedal. -- Clive.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 24 Feb 2010 21:47 On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:21:35 +0000, Clive wrote: > In message <hm40uf$qkn$16(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> writes >>I was talking about my '05 Scion. It remembers the last set speed until >>you turn off the key. I think it even remembers the setting if you turn >>the cruise OFF, and then back on again. I don't like it. And where the >>control is; I hit is accidently taking a corner one time, my had just >>barely brushed it and hit the RES function, and having been on the >>highway at 70 MPH we were off to the races on a back road! Since then I >>turn it OFF once I get off the highway. Always. >> >>I'm wondering how many 'unintentional accelerations' were caused by this. > Yes you're right I do have an Auris, perhaps yours the more normal one and > Toyota has rectified it. Acting as you say, it would give anyone not > fully conversant with the setup a bit of a shock and I suspect that the > panic reaction for some would be to floor the pedal. Well, I tell you, it was a bit of a surprise. I felt my finger hit something when I was turning the wheel and then the RPMs ramped up and we started GOING! I had just got off the Interstate and was taking a corner at the busiest intersection in a small (REALLY small) 'city' but there weren't a LOT of people around. I immediately hit the brakes AND the CANCEL lever, and then SHUT IT OFF. Lesson learned.
From: C. E. White on 26 Feb 2010 19:09
----- Original Message ----- From: "Clive" <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: alt.autos.toyota,alt.autos.toyota.camry,alt.autos.toyota.prius,rec.autos.tech Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Toyota Corolla May Be Recalled over Steering Problem > In message <hm11ga$tb1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, C. E. White > <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> writes >> Toyota's whole business was based on >>Japanese government funding and the exclusion of foreign competition >>from the Japanese market. > You really are a basket case. You've been told ,I can't count just how > many times, that the average Japanese person wants a car smaller than two > litres and no one in America makes one. I've pointed out to you that > it's illegal to own a car in Japan unless you own a parking space, what's > more others have pointed out that fuel is about five times the cost it is > in the US. You're just plain thick, or as someone from your side of the > pond put it "Stoooooopid. What has this got to do with the Japanese government bankrolling Toyota's expansion? I was just pointing out that Toyota was/is getting plenty of governmental support just like GM. I think it is unreasonable to attack GM for being propped up by the government when Toyota is also being supported by various US and Japanese government entities. The Japanese government protected Toyota from foreign competition for years. The Japanese government funded much of Toyotas' growth in the 50's, 60's and 70's. When Toyota started having problems last year, the Japanese government stepped in and provided emergency financing to Toyota. Many US governments have provided Toyota with financial incentives to locate plants in their jurisdictions. All this is factual. Trashing GM because it was bailed out by the US government is only reasonable if you are willing to also criticize Toyota for accepting government aid. My personal opinion is that the government should be criticized for essentially confiscating GM from the prior stockholders and turning over a large chunk of it to the UAW. I was not a GM stockholder, but I think I would rather have seen it go down the tubes. GM had some valuable assets. I might have gotten something for my stock, instead of nothing. I believe the US government far exceeded it's authority in the GM bailout. Ed |