Toyota Throttle Electronics Easily Confused
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From: C. E. White on 26 Feb 2010 18:34 "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:hm75sm$stp$5(a)news.eternal-september.org... > I don't get where he said that. A lot of people are pointing to the > electronics, but since the affliction spans a lot of models, electronics > seems out of the picture. I am not an expert on software, but it seems to me that the basic programing modules would be similar across the product lines. I am sure there are variations in response parameters, but I would guess that the basic processing strategy would be the same across the product lines. I am sure it probably evolves over time, but I would be suprised if all of the vehicles with electronically controlled throttles didn't share the same basic programming. I have a couple of Toyotas repair manuals, and the electronic throttle control sections are virtually indentical (2.4L I4, and 3.0L V6). Ed
From: C. E. White on 26 Feb 2010 18:53 "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:S6KdnQr3EeRo_BrWnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... >> You apparently are dedicated to deflecting >> any discussion of the Toyota problems by any and all means, including >> lying. > > except that i'm not and you are. where were you on the frod rollover > fiasco ed? did we hear you baying for blood over the hundreds of > americans killed by frod executives anxious to avoid costly redesigns on > vehicles /proven/ faulty. LIAR. Ed
From: Nate Nagel on 26 Feb 2010 19:02 On 02/26/2010 06:53 PM, C. E. White wrote: > > "jim beam" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:S6KdnQr3EeRo_BrWnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > >>> You apparently are dedicated to deflecting >>> any discussion of the Toyota problems by any and all means, including >>> lying. >> >> except that i'm not and you are. where were you on the frod rollover >> fiasco ed? did we hear you baying for blood over the hundreds of >> americans killed by frod executives anxious to avoid costly redesigns >> on vehicles /proven/ faulty. > > LIAR. > > > Ed All tall, short, narrow, truck-based vehicles are more prone to rollover than a passenger car. I have no doubt that my dad's old Scout was more prone to a rollover than an Explorer. And somehow I drove it to high school every day and didn't roll it. Probably because I KNEW not to try to drive it like a GTI. Now the Firestone thing, that was ugly, but blame can be shared. But shame on Ford for trying to cover up the Explorer's fundamental truckness by spec'ing low tire pressures. Should have just spec'd the pressure properly and told complainers "hey, you bought a TRUCK. deal with it." Obviously, I am not in marketing. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel
From: C. E. White on 26 Feb 2010 19:19 "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message news:Xns9D2B60597CD01tegger(a)208.90.168.18... > "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in > news:FcSdnXZHMbw4yRrWnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com: > >> So I still content that if you are going to rant and rave >> about how dangerous Explorers were, then you need to rant and rave >> about 4Runners as well (and other also - like 2WD S10 Blazer). > > > > And be willing to admit that any tall vehicle is, by its very nature, more > likely to roll over than any short vehicle, regardless of who made it. > > It is not possible to drive a 6.5'-tall SUV like you would a 4.5'-tall > coupe, and expect to be able to keep the shiny side up all the time. Naturally. I never realy understood how truck based SUVs got to be popular with city dwellers. I have a farm and actually needed to use the 4 wheel drive at times. I liked the idea of an SUV vs a pick-up for two reasons - more passenger room (when my kids were younger they often went with me to my farm) and I could keep stuff dry in the back on rainy days. My kids are grown up now, so I no longer have an SUV (just a 4WD pick-up for the farm). I drive a car as my everyday vehicle. If I need a vehicle like an SUV, I can just use my Mother's Highlander (which is really jsut a station wagon in my mind). Ed
From: Kyle Miestor on 26 Feb 2010 20:36
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:13:11 -0800, jim beam <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >On 02/23/2010 05:47 PM, john wrote: >> The floor mats and sticking pedal accounts for only 30% of the >> problems. The true cause of sudden acceleration is still not known so >> no real solution is possible. IMO it's the electronics. > >"in your opinion"? are you a software engineer? are you an electrical >engineer? are you /any/ form of engineer? He has engineered a colossal waste of bandwidth if that counts? johnny boy is indeed an epic douchebag. |