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From: ransley on 21 Jul 2010 10:15 On Jul 20, 7:34 pm, Bill Murphy <billmur...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I have a typical back yard, open mostly to the sun, where I store five > 5-gallon jerry jugs of gasoline for my bikes and equipment and off-road > vehicles. > > I don't see that it's all that much of a danger, considering we keep two > cars in the garage with twice that much gasoline essentially inside the > house - while this is outside along the fence. > > But, my neighbor noticed the four jugs recently and asked about them. I > said I never knew gas to spontaneously explode and he said the sun could > cause it to happen. He also said it's illegal to transport more than a > single five-gallon can in your trunk (is that true?). > > Is it all that dangerous to keep 20 gallons of gas in the back yard? > Is it illegal to trasnsport more than 5 gallons (California) in a car? I would just keep it out of any direct sun, not store it for months as some volitile components will escape through plastic, degrading the gas, yes it airtight but not 100% impermiable and be sure you have no enemies.
From: HeyBub on 21 Jul 2010 10:53 Bill Murphy wrote: > I have a typical back yard, open mostly to the sun, where I store five > 5-gallon jerry jugs of gasoline for my bikes and equipment and > off-road vehicles. > > I don't see that it's all that much of a danger, considering we keep > two cars in the garage with twice that much gasoline essentially > inside the house - while this is outside along the fence. > > But, my neighbor noticed the four jugs recently and asked about them. > I said I never knew gas to spontaneously explode and he said the sun > could cause it to happen. He also said it's illegal to transport more > than a single five-gallon can in your trunk (is that true?). > > Is it all that dangerous to keep 20 gallons of gas in the back yard? > Is it illegal to trasnsport more than 5 gallons (California) in a car? On transportation - How else is the gas going to get from where it is to where it needs to be? Perhaps it could miracle itself?
From: Roy on 21 Jul 2010 11:18 On Jul 21, 8:59 am, Steve Barker <ichasetra...(a)notgmail.com> wrote: > On 7/20/2010 8:52 PM, HeyBub wrote: > > > > > Bill Murphy wrote: > >> I have a typical back yard, open mostly to the sun, where I store five > >> 5-gallon jerry jugs of gasoline for my bikes and equipment and > >> off-road vehicles. > > >> I don't see that it's all that much of a danger, considering we keep > >> two cars in the garage with twice that much gasoline essentially > >> inside the house - while this is outside along the fence. > > >> But, my neighbor noticed the four jugs recently and asked about them. > >> I said I never knew gas to spontaneously explode and he said the sun > >> could cause it to happen. He also said it's illegal to transport more > >> than a single five-gallon can in your trunk (is that true?). > > >> Is it all that dangerous to keep 20 gallons of gas in the back yard? > >> Is it illegal to trasnsport more than 5 gallons (California) in a car? > > > I'd be more concerned about the buttinsky neighbor than the gasoline. > > amen. tell him to myob > > -- > Steve Barker > remove the "not" from my address to email == Bullshit...the neighbor has legitimate concerns. 20 gallons of gasoline in jerry cans stored in a trunk of a car is NOT safe. If stored in a locked garden shed isolated from all buildings or fences it would be much safer but not ideal. Residential areas are not designed for the storage of volatile liquids especially in the quantities mentioned. I would not store more than 2 gallons at the most...this would be adequate for lawnmower and weedeater usage. People who do what THEY want and disregard OTHERS are just selfish jerks. I have lived next to these kinds of people in the past and believe me, it is no picnic. ==
From: chuckcar on 21 Jul 2010 22:43 Bill Murphy <billmurphy(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:i25fcg$vjv$1(a)speranza.aioe.org: > I have a typical back yard, open mostly to the sun, where I store five > 5-gallon jerry jugs of gasoline for my bikes and equipment and > off-road vehicles. > > I don't see that it's all that much of a danger, considering we keep > two cars in the garage with twice that much gasoline essentially > inside the house - while this is outside along the fence. > > But, my neighbor noticed the four jugs recently and asked about them. > I said I never knew gas to spontaneously explode and he said the sun > could cause it to happen. He also said it's illegal to transport more > than a single five-gallon can in your trunk (is that true?). > > Is it all that dangerous to keep 20 gallons of gas in the back yard? > Is it illegal to trasnsport more than 5 gallons (California) in a car? Do they have vent holes and/or pour spouts? If so, take the spouts out and loosen take off the vent cap. I had a gas can (1 gallon for the mower) that I didn't do that when I got gas at the beginning of the year. Once it warmed up, the vapour pressure forced the gas out the top even though it was tightly sealed. There was a gasoline smell for two days and it could easily have lit from open flame. If your neighbour had smelled that.. Well who wants the fire dept. and city on their tail? BTW I live in Ontario on the other side of the border. Far farther north than you, so less heat and different laws. We have red plastic cans here. -- (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
From: Evan on 22 Jul 2010 08:05
On Jul 20, 8:34 pm, Bill Murphy <billmur...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I have a typical back yard, open mostly to the sun, where I store five > 5-gallon jerry jugs of gasoline for my bikes and equipment and off-road > vehicles. > > I don't see that it's all that much of a danger, considering we keep two > cars in the garage with twice that much gasoline essentially inside the > house - while this is outside along the fence. > > But, my neighbor noticed the four jugs recently and asked about them. I > said I never knew gas to spontaneously explode and he said the sun could > cause it to happen. He also said it's illegal to transport more than a > single five-gallon can in your trunk (is that true?). > > Is it all that dangerous to keep 20 gallons of gas in the back yard? > Is it illegal to trasnsport more than 5 gallons (California) in a car? Yes it is dangerous to keep that much gasoline stored in your backyard... Especially in gas cans... You never know what is going to happen to it, rather than it falling prey to some sort of spontaneous combustion, it is more likely that it will get spilled by someone creating a hazardous materials incident, or that it will be stolen, tampered with by someone adding something which will hurt your engines to it, or it could be set on fire as an act of arson/vandalism... You would be liable for leaving this gasoline out as at "attractive nuisance" if someone were to spill it or make use of it for arson... If you want to store and haul more than 20 gallons of fuel at a time -- here is a question: I assume that you have some sort of a pick up truck to haul around your bikes and off-road vehicles... Yes ? Purchase a "fuel transfer tank" for the bed of your pick-up truck... Like one of these: http://www.nextag.com/pickup-bed-fuel-tank/products-html You will need to obtain a permit for it and have it inspected periodically to transport that much fuel outside of the vehicles actual fuel tank... That is the best way to go... Rather than having a collection of gasoline containers just hanging around in your yard... ~~ Evan |