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From: JNugent on 6 Feb 2010 19:58 DavidR wrote: > "bikeulike" <bikeulike(a)bikeulike.com> wrote >> Your on the motorway, lane 1. You are going exit at the next junction. The >> exit slip road is two lanes as you leave it leads to a roundabout and you >> intend to take the third exit at the roundabout (Turn right effectively). >> Clearly you need to be in lane 2 of the slip road on the approach to the >> roundabout. > Not necessarily. Plenty of roundabouts are dual carriageways which allow > right turns from left hand entry. A dual-carriageway roundabout? I wouldn't mind seeing a picture of that. Is the centre-reservation solid (without gaps)?
From: Mr. Benn on 7 Feb 2010 01:15 Harry Bloomfield <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in news:mn.34847da27d331cdf.106911(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk: > bikeulike formulated on Saturday : >> Your on the motorway, lane 1. You are going exit at the next >> junction. The exit slip road is two lanes as you leave it leads to a >> roundabout and you intend to take the third exit at the roundabout >> (Turn right effectively). Clearly you need to be in lane 2 of the >> slip road on the approach to the roundabout. >> Is the correct procedure. >> >> 1. Keep on the motorway and exit directly into lane 2 of the slip >> road. ie Keeping the exit road markings to you left and turning >> directly into lane 2 of the slip road. >> >> 2. Exit directly into lane 1 of the slip road and then move over to >> lane two of the slip road. >> >> Problems. >> >> If you follow 1 above, You risk the car behind you trying to end up >> in the same place (Slip road lane 2) >> >> If you follow 2 above, You risk a car overtaking you and trying to >> end up in the same place. >> >> >> I submit this question to the "Font of all knowledge" for the >> definitive answer! > > If it is a long slip road and fairly empty, use lane 1 of the slip > then indicate and move over to L2. If there is queueing traffic in L1, > but not L2 obviously go directly into L2. The thing is not to impede > faster vehicles/ drivers who might wish to get past you unnecessarily. > > There should be no conflict at all with regards to two vehicles trying > to occupy the same space, if you adjust your speed and position > properly. Agree 100%.
From: Brimstone on 7 Feb 2010 03:36 "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message news:qeednaToqKbMjfPWnZ2dnUVZ7oRi4p2d(a)pipex.net... > DavidR wrote: > >> "bikeulike" <bikeulike(a)bikeulike.com> wrote > >>> Your on the motorway, lane 1. You are going exit at the next junction. >>> The exit slip road is two lanes as you leave it leads to a roundabout >>> and you intend to take the third exit at the roundabout (Turn right >>> effectively). Clearly you need to be in lane 2 of the slip road on the >>> approach to the roundabout. > >> Not necessarily. Plenty of roundabouts are dual carriageways which allow >> right turns from left hand entry. > > A dual-carriageway roundabout? > > I wouldn't mind seeing a picture of that. Is the centre-reservation solid > (without gaps)? Sadly they didn't put in a physical central reservation when they made Denham roundabout two way, white paint is cheaper. At each entrance/exit there is a mini roundabout http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=denham&sll=52.236195,-1.638661&sspn=3.122218,7.064209&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Denham,+Uxbridge,+Middlesex,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.561425,-0.49534&spn=0.003095,0.006899&t=k&z=17
From: Ian Jackson on 7 Feb 2010 03:43 In message <7t6akvF2e4U1(a)mid.individual.net>, DavidR <curedham(a)4bidden.org.uk> writes >"bikeulike" <bikeulike(a)bikeulike.com> wrote >> Your on the motorway, lane 1. You are going exit at the next junction. The >> exit slip road is two lanes as you leave it leads to a roundabout and you >> intend to take the third exit at the roundabout (Turn right effectively). >> Clearly you need to be in lane 2 of the slip road on the approach to the >> roundabout. > >Not necessarily. Plenty of roundabouts are dual carriageways which allow >right turns from left hand entry. > There may be 'plenty', but they are definitely in the minority. You should only turn right from a left-hand lane entry when road signs or markings indicate that it's OK to do this. Even then, watch out for those in the right-hand entry lane who don't know that it's OK, and take exception to your effrontery! >> Is the correct procedure. >> >> 1. Keep on the motorway and exit directly into lane 2 of the slip road. ie >> Keeping the exit road markings to you left and turning directly into lane >> 2 of the slip road. > >I don't think that's a good idea. > As others have said, 'it depends' on the speed and density of traffic, and especially on the length of the exit slip. > > 2. Exit directly into lane 1 of the slip road and then move over to lane >two >> of the slip road. > >That's fine. 'It depends'. > Or:- > >Option 3. Exit into the slip road, soonest, but once you have crossed the >divider line, remain alongside it. > But beware of someone immediately behind you, who is turning off using Method 1 (directly into Lane 2 of the slip road), and who thinks that you are going to stay in Lane 1. >As ever it's down to the circumstances - your speed, traffic speed traffic >density and length of slip. The main thing to be aware of is late chancers >pulling into the slip from lane 2. > Quite. >> Problems. >> >> If you follow 1 above, You risk the car behind you trying to end up in the >> same place (Slip road lane 2) > >> If you follow 2 above, You risk a car overtaking you and trying to end up >> in the same place. > >If you are a slower driver staying right on a long slip road, you might also >invite undertakers... > I rarely 'invite' undertakers! However, if they can't resist the urge to undertake you, all for the sake of one or two hundred yards of sliproad, just let them. You'll soon catch them up - sitting immediately in front of you, waiting to enter the roundabout. -- Ian
From: Ray Keattch on 7 Feb 2010 07:19
Ian Jackson wrote: > I rarely 'invite' undertakers! However, if they can't resist the urge to > undertake you, all for the sake of one or two hundred yards of sliproad, > just let them. You'll soon catch them up - sitting immediately in front > of you, waiting to enter the roundabout. There is a much chance they will find a gap to use when they get to the roundabout that you miss. If someone can pass you on the left, you are in the wrong lane. -- MrBitsy |